From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 16:47:12 2007 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:17:12 -0230 Subject: [War] Canada: "The Proposal" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70709061347p46bf3666v77e3c2f5566b4ff5@mail.gmail.com> "The Proposal" Prime Minister R. Leon MacIntyre Canada 14 March 2013 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- *Note: These events take place immediately following the US-Canadian Summit in Washington Very quickly the Prime Minister had communicated to his offices back in Ottawa the course and progress of his talks with the President of the United States. Most had applauded the deal on cattle and bemoaned the stonewalling of any relevant moves on pharmaceuticals. The item that generated the most buzz in the upper echelons of the Canadian government were the expectations the Americans in Canada's military. Given that the military was slowly becoming a hot button issue on Ottawa, likely even more so now, and that a build-up would cost a lot of money (and spending money was something no government liked to do) it was decided that a special meeting should be held among members of the Cabinet. The Cabinet of Canada functioned more like the Politburo of the Soviet Union then it did the American Cabinet; ministers were more often than not high ranking members of the Liberal Party caucus, unlike their American counterparts who were unelected bureaucrats. This particular circle of men and women who were currently filing into an opulent conference room at the Central Bloc were the 'inner cabinet' of the government. They were the ones all largely responsible for the election victory of the Liberal government and the chief policy and ideological architects of the Liberal Party. Prime Minister MacIntyre was the 'primus inter pares' of this group, but he was not their king, as past PMs had fancied themselves. So Government House Leader Felipe Dechard did not see it at all treasonous or treacherous for he and the others of the inner cabinet to meet and discuss the events in Washington. In all there were six of them including Dechard; Charles Daudelin the Foreign Minister, Vernon Garneau the Defence Minister, Rebecca Belford the Chief Whip, Eric Lancaster the Public Safety Minister and Pierre Saint-Gelais the Health Minister. The only two not in attendance were the PM himself and Steven DeMonte, Finanace Minister and Deputy PM. In addition to these ranking politicians was Army Lieutenant-General Sandra Newcastle, Chief of the Defence Staff. She was there in a purely advisory role; Garneau, like the majority of Defence Ministers, was not and had never been a soldier. He was a former board members for BAE Systems and was greatly connected in the global defence industry. Though he was undisputed expert on the technological side of things, it was Newcastle that would provide this circle with a more military perspective. "Let's get started," said Dechard as he snapped the top of his bottled mineral water. With MacIntyre and DeMonte in DC, he was the most senior man present and would chair the meetings. "Vernon, has the Department of National Defence come up with a draft proposal of what we will be doing with the CF?" "I have," said Garneau, opening his briefcase and quickly slid identical folders to each everyone. 'Top Secret' was written on the cover of each folder. "When writing this report we took into consideration two important questions; Number one, what role should Canada play in the defence of North America and number two, how will we prepare Canada's military for the demands of peacekeeping in the 21st Century? "To begin, general operational funding. The proposal by the Pentagon that we set our yearly military budget to 2% of the GDP is, in my opinion, a very logical and reasonable suggesting. In fact on average our principle allies, not counting America, such as France, Britain and Australia spend an average of 2.4% on defence. Given that we are entering into a period of expansion, a budget of 2% seems reasonable?" The last part was posed as a question, and there were no objections. "Alright then, we will begin with the expansion of the Army," continued Garneau. "General Newcastle?" "Thank you Defence Minister," nodded Newcastle before using her PDA to bring up the display on the projection screen on the far side of the room. "The proposed expansion calls for a division of new troops consisting of three full-strength brigades. We will model these brigades as we do our current formations, with each containing one armoured, mechanized infantry, and artillery regiment each, plus air transport and service support formations. Ideally we would like the capacity to have two brigades operating anywhere in the world at any given time with a third brigade ready for surge deployment with only limited preparation. "In terms of equipment, there are several things that we will be needing. One, the RCAC could use some new tanks. Our Leopard 1s are way beyond their operational lifespan and are obsolete. Our current inventory of Leopard 2s, while an excellent and highly capable design even now, are all second-hand units purchased from Norway or Germany and are close to 30 years old. And with three new armoured regiments being organized, we will need to not only replace our Leopards but outfit those new regiments as well. We're looking at about 300. The RCAC has expressed a great deal of interest in the GIAT Leclerc MBT in use by France and the UAE. It's a very new, very modern tank that compares quite favourably as a successor to our Leopard 2s." "I can have Ambassador Gardner speak with the French President about an arms acquisition," noted Daudelin. "Second, we need new APCs," went on Newcastle. "As our Army is designed to be a highly expeditionary force, given our heavy participation in peacekeeping, we must be able top operate in any number of environments with any number of roles. Now while we may be building up our armed forces, we still cannot afford to have a wide variety of single-purpose vehicles to do a variety of tasks. Or, not to the degree that the Americans have. Because of these we are looking at making a purchase of the Boxer MRAV, or multi-role armoured vehicle, in use by the European Union. It's a very flexible design that can be outfitted with mission-specific modules. We're looking at about 700, to replace our fleet of AVGPs and M113 tracks. "Mobility is critical to any military and air mobility is paramount. We only have eighty transport utility helicopters in use by the RCAF, the Bell 412 or the 'Griffon' as the CF refers to it. Now again, this is an issue of an older design that is few in number. We want to give the Army its own fleet of UH-60M utility helicopters, the latest production variant of the US Army's 'Black Hawk' design. With the army now boosted to two full divisions in size, we'll need about 150 of these at least. On top of that, we have a lack of heavier helicopters which can ferry larger cargo at longer ranges than medium aircraft like the Black Hawk or Griffon can. We will thus request we also be given the funds needed to purchase 25 NH90 TTH helicopters from the European Union." "Opinions?" asked Dechard. "It seems a reasonable enough course of action," offered Lancaster. He was the only other soldier, a past member of the Royal Canadian Regiment, among them after Newcastle and the second most senior security expert. "It's not like the Canadian Army is never in use. We've fought in every major NATO and UN operation since Korea and done dozens of peacekeeping operations. Of all the branches of the CF, it does the most work and takes the most punishment for it." No objections were raised and they seemed to have a consensus. "Okay," said the House Leader. "How about the RCAF?" "The RCAF is in very dire straights," admitted Newcastle. "We only have eighty fighters, sixty of which are combat fighters. The other twenty of been converted into trainers. We barely have enough aircraft to effectively cover Ontario and Quebec, let alone the second largest airspace in the world. For some time now, back as early as 2004, we have been participating in the JSF development project with the United States and United Kingdom. I would like to see the RCAF equipped with the F-35A Lightening multirole fighter. It is very comparable to the Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale and Sukhoi Berkut. Ideally, we would be taking an order of 200 fighters. That is enough to both patrol our own airspace effectively and have squadrons operating overseas. "The other area the RCAF is lacking in is strategic lift. This is something the Pentagon has been complaining about for years. We are far too heavily dependent upon the USAF to actually get our men to where they need to go outside of mainland Canada. Our purchase of four C-17 Globemasters in 2007 was a good step, but now we need a larger fleet of slightly smaller lifters. Originally we were going to purchase 17 C-130s, but that did not materialize. Now the RCAF is seriously considering purchasing 15 Airbus A400s. They are more expensive than the C-130 but are more capable, and newer; they only became available in 2009, while the C-130 is a product of the 1950's. We should be making a highly modern force with equipment that will last us twenty to thirty years, not older designs that will become obsolete in ten." This time the looks were more reluctant. The need was apparent, true, but there was something less?. Human about the Air Force. The Army was made up of young kids with very human faces out fighting the Taliban and giving out water and food to poor people in some distant country that you saw on CBC, while the Royal Canadian Air Force was a bunch of big iron birds landing on some runway somewhere. But how could they argue with the decrepit state of their fighter and lift forces? Though the hesitation was apparent, no one voiced objections. "General before you begin your brief on the status of the Navy, General Newcastle, I would like to make it known that I do not support the idea of Canada acquiring nuclear attack submarines," explained Saint-Gelais in his twangey Quebecois accent. "I have looked at what we would be paying the United States to build us these ships. At the very least it will be 1.65 billion American dollars. That is, as they say, real money. Now I understand and agree that the military needs improvement and expansion, but I question the cost of this particular purchase." "I think I must agree with Pierre, though for different reasons," said Lancaster. "I'm not a Navy man but I can tell you that apart from aircraft carriers and ballistic missile subs, nuclear attack subs such as the Virginia-class are among the most powerful weapons of war ever created. Able to sneak anywhere in the world and attack with a devastating array of torpedoes and cruise missiles. The Virginia-class can even perform advanced intelligence gathering operations and deliver special forces teams. Should we not stop and think that having such powerful tools at our disposal might be a bit too MUCH power?" "These are nuclear subs, not nuclear weapons, Eric," noted Garneau. "Powerful weapons? Yes. But we face nations that could be powerful enemies. In the North we have Russia slowly creeping into Arctic territory that is ours. And they have nuclear subs at their disposal, a huge tactical advantage over us. We don't even HAVE submarines, period. The Upholder-class boats the British sold us don't even work anymore. Half of them had to be taken out of service almost three years after we got them due to technical problems. And what about China? Are they not building up their nuclear sub fleet? Newcastle, what are the new subs class they've been working on?" "Type 093," said Newcastle. "The NATO reporting code is Shang-class." "Yes, exactly. China is producing new subs. And it could be as little as two years before Russia starts producing Severodvinsk-class boats. Furthermore, what if Russia and China start collaborating on sub development? It may have fallen through this time, what about next time? With Russian technology and Chinese financing, they could build more advanced subs in greater quantities than they are now." "I should point out that we have not engaged in hostilities with Russia over the Arctic yet and are a long way from doing so," countered Lancaster. "And we have good relations with China as well. And say we do have to fight one or the other, the US Navy has more than enough nuclear submarines to protect us. Given that we are spending billions of dollars improving every other aspect of our military, it is not an unreasonable expectation on our part for the Americans to defend us against such threats. Anyway, what about diesel subs?" "They are cheaper," admitted Garneau. "And faster to build. But our coastline is large, and our Arctic territory makes it difficult to surface regularly in the North. Diesel subs have to periodically access air, and have more limited range based on fuel. Nuclear attack subs are limited only by food stocks and do not need to surface for months at a time. They have a distinct advantage, especially if we have to defend ourselves against Russian encroachment in the Arctic." "I still think it will cost to much," mumbled Saint ?Gelais. "Did it ever occur to you that maybe we need such weapons?" asked Garneau of Lancaster. "You said it yourself, cruise missiles, intelligence gathering abilities and the capacity to deliver special forces. Peacekeeping is become more dangerous and more intensive. Often we don't simply have to keep two foes apart, we have to actively fight and eliminate one or two of the warring sides. Remember Yugoslavia? The African Union's mission in Sudan? They only ended when the Serbs were beaten and the Sudanese rebels were forced back." "If I may offer a suggestion," said Daudelin. All eyes turned to him. "If we were to buy diesel subs, what type would we likely get?" "Germany's U212-class are supposedly the most advanced," replied Garneau. "Okay. My proposal is that we hold a design competition between the US Navy's Virginia-class subs and the Deutsche Marine's U212-class. The RCN will place an observer aboard each ship and report as each sub does sea trials. After that we'll stage a war game exercise between both ships, and whoever gets the best two out of three wins the contract." At the very least it was a delay tactic. Even those among them who saw a use for nuclear submarines realized that the rest of the CF expansion was more important. Better that the rest of it get passed through Parliament and then the final decision on the sub fleet be made at a later date. "Moving onto the rest Royal Canadian Navy," said Newcastle. "We'll be purchasing four Zumwalt-class Destroyers to replace our Iroquois-class Destroyers and fourteen Freedom-class Littoral Combat Ships to replace our Halifax-class frigates." "What is the ultimate cost of all this?" asked Saint-Gelais. Newcastle tapped her PDA once again and the display changed. "Some of the costs are not finalized pending diplomatic negotiations. But here it is." 4 Zumwalt-class Destroyers at 3 billion= 12 billion 14 Freedom-class LCS at 200 million= 2.8 billion 300 Leclerc MBTs at 4.3 Million= 1.29 billion 200 F-35As at 40 million= 8 billion 700 Boxer MRAVs at 6 million= 4.2 Billion 150 UH-60Ms at 5 million= 750 Million 25 NH90 at 19 million= 475 million 15 Airbus A400s at 135 million= 2.025 Billion Total: 31.54 Billion USD. "Now these figures may change depending on how much the French and EU joint companies charge us for the tanks, A400s and MRAVs. We're basing this list on standard prices as they were now. With the increase in orders, we might get a bargain price as we are with the Pentagon. Add another five billion for recruitment and training, the entire cost will be 36.54 billion US Dollars." "Payment will be done in phases," explained Dechard. "If Parliament agrees to the build-up, seven billion dollars up front followed by six billion dollars a year for the next five years. Obviously this does not include our submarines; a separate payment plan will be devised for them once we make a decision to go nuclear or diesel." --- Actions: 1) Outline equipment and manpower requirements for the Canadian Forces 2) Submit the requirements to Parliament for approval, followed by the actual spending bill after all the needed political wrangling is complete. 3) Issues a competition for the Royal Canadian Navy's next generation submarine; the RCN is consider either the American Virginia-class or German U212-class. If both parties agree, hold sea trials with an RCN observer aboard each boat. 4) Set Canadian defense spending to 2% of the GDP From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Sat Sep 8 23:41:45 2007 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 23:41:45 EDT Subject: [War] China/Japan/Russia: "The Beijing Conference" Part One Message-ID: "Shaping Asia" President Xia Hong People's Republic of China President Nemerenko Russian Federation Prime Minister Shunichi Sato Japan ================================================ (Estate Room- Executive Residence) The Estate Room was perhaps the largest single room in the Chinese Executive Residence. Fashioned after an old fashioned ballroom right out of European history... but like so many western inspired products in the country, with a distinctly Asian flare. Rather than hosting a traditional ball however, it would be the setting for a major international conference... it's originally intended purpose. A heavy, elaborately hand-sculpted marble and stone table sat at the far edge of the room, making space for the requisite media entities and the various staff members each delegation was likely to bring with them. Security was understandably tight, even by China's already strenuous standards. The MSI and Executive Security teams were coordinating well, and even America's Secret Service would have been impressed by the amount of precaution and technical skill showed. It was arranged that the official meeting would begin precisely at 1:00 PM local time, which was why Xia showed up at 12:30. She preferred having the leeway of organizing things herself, or at least over seeing them. The Ministry of State had exceedingly capable staffers, but there was nothing like feeling prepared. *** Sato felt prepared. Even with concern laying heavy on his mind regarding the plane crash at Midway, he felt he was ready for what today and the following days would bring. Though just to be safe he went over his notes again, in hard copy, he was a dinosaur when it came to technology, and then closed them up in his briefcase and passed it to his daughter Akeme as the Japanese motorcade arrived at the Chinese Executive Residence. Katsuo, his director of Public Affairs, leaned over and adjusted his tie. "No smiling," he reminded Sato as he did so. Of course he couldn't smile as he exited the car, there had been a plane crash, hundreds were dead, he knew enough not to smile for the media in a time like this. "He knows," Akeme said. Katsuo bowed his head in apology and retreated back to his seat. Sato finished adjusting his tie as the car came to a stop. Yamazaki, the leader of his personal team of bodyguards opened the car door for him and he got out while Akemi followed and Kazuo stayed in the car. An official from the Ministry of State came down and greeted him. "Mr. Prime Minister welcome to China." Sato bowed his head and gave an earnest if not exuberent look of greeting to the official. "Thank you, may I say the residence is lovely, I am afraid pictures have not done it justice." They continued small talk up the stairs and were lead through immaculate and tastefully decorated corridors to the Estate room, which was simply cavernous and it was clear even though most of the Chinese delegation was in the room, it could hold considerably more. Sato was impressed; somewhere in the dark tunnel of communism the Chinese had remembered their sense of style, even if it was in this room at least heavily borrowed from the West, but what wasn't these days? Still taking in the room Sato let himself, and it was only himself, as his daughter and the aides who had come in the second car took their places by the conference table, be led by the official to where President Xia Hong stood. He bowed formally, just slightly deeper than what an equal would receive after all President Hong was, *President* Hong, and thusly of a higher rank than himself, a head of government. "President Hong, pleased to finally meet you," he offered in English. As he said, who didn't borrow from the west?" "Prime Minister Sato." Xia allowed a small smile, and returned the bow in equal fervor. After all, President, Prime Minister, or what not, they were all equally leaders of their respective nations, and in that sense were all equals. Besides, for as much as Asia had developed technologically, it was still a continent and a cluster of peoples highly indulgent in tradition. "Welcome to Beijing. I've been looking forward to finally meeting you." The man hadn't even been given a chance to settle in before photographers and videographers started their particular bombardments, not missing a beat in getting portraits of the leaders of the two greatest Asian nations and long time rivals side by side, and actually greeting each other warmly. "I hope that all the accommodations have been acceptable?" It was impolite to get immediately to business, even in Asian politics. Sato nodded. "More than acceptable, thank you," he said cordially. "And I must say, the Executive Residence is spectacular. I hope our schedule will permit time to better examine it." Xia chuckled, Prime Minister Sato seemed to be the only leader other than North Korea's Wi Cheng that she might actually find easy to work with. It would be nice to guarantee the region's two most dominant powers had a decent relationship. "Consider your delegation and yourself as guests of the Chinese people Prime Minister, you are all welcomed to remain as long as you like." Her childhood Californian accent shone through just a bit as they conversed in English. "You may even be surprised at how many of the appliances here you may find familiar." She was referring of course to the large number of appliances Japan exported, or Japanese companies made in China with their own brand names. "Always a pleasure to see our work is appreciated," Sato said allowing a slight smile as the President was laughing. "And we will take you up on your invitation to remain for a time, it is good to see we are welcome in China." "The city may be forbidden, but the rest can be quite welcoming." She joked, pouring each of them a cup of authentic green tea. "You are always welcome in China, Mister Prime Minister. "I have nothing but respect for your country and your people. Japan has certainly earned it's status as a world leader." "It certainly has," came a voice tinged by a Slavic accent. Nemerenko approached the two other leaders. "Prime Minister Sato, I am pleased to finally meet you in person. And greetings to you also, President Hong. Your government has done a commendable job of organizing this conference." "You flatter me, Mister President." Xia gave a respectful nod to Nemerenko before immediately pouring him a cup of the same tea. They may have their differences, but Russia's commitment had helped them keep North Korea stable from a humanitarian standpoint, and as such he certainly warranted an invitation to a conference where North Korea was likely to be a major issue. "Please, make yourselves comfortable. Minister Cheng the leader of the current North Korean government should be here shortly." ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20070908/ed391af4/attachment.html From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Sun Sep 9 14:38:35 2007 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 14:38:35 EDT Subject: [War] "Shaping Asia" Part Two Message-ID: "Shaping Asia" President Xia Hong People's Republic of China President Nemerenko Russian Federation Prime Minister Shunichi Sato Japan ================================================ Nemerenko graciously accepted the tea. "My government of course puts a great deal of importance on these talks. We hope that through mutual cooperation we can create a stable and efficient road map for the future of Korea." Xia nodded. "I'm sure an understanding can be reached on Korea, though I hope this conference will not be limited solely to Minister Cheng's government or country. There is much we can accomplish as each of our countries have much to gain through cooperation." Sato's interest was piqued by that. "What sort of things did you have in mind?" he asked conversationally as he too sipped at his tea. "Not to get ahead of things before our Korean friends arrive." "Well I believe it's time we consider moving beyond Asean, away from an organization intended to address the specific concerns of South East Asia, to a broader Union of all Asian nations. Russia certainly has a stake in the economic development of Asia, at least as much as it does in Europe. Likewise it's about time we began to integrate, to be able to deal diplomatically and economically with the West as equals." If Sato had not been Japanese and a politician his jaw would have dropped. That was quite the proposal, and here he had been expecting a photo op and a chance to meet the other regional leaders. Xia Hong obviously had other things in mind. Fortunately another aspect one learned being a successful Japanese politician was flexibility. Knowing his staff would be feverishly churning things over in their heads to advise him when he had a moment, he pressed for more details. "How much integration are you suggesting?" he asked. "Something like an Asian version of NAFTA or as far reaching and revolutionary as the EU?" Xia smiled, she'd figured the air would have been sucked out of the room and the proposition, along with all those gathered, would have died from shock and hypoxia. She was only partially right. "Well I understand there is a great deal of confidence building that must be made before hand, but in the time our governments have been running we've resolved long standing territorial disputes, responded to humanitarian crises, and cooperated on a level previously thought unimaginable given the blocks put in place between us over history and alliances. Yet we've prevailed." She took a sip of her own tea. "I don't think any of us are prepared just yet to make the commitment to each other that the European nations have made among themselves, but it's likewise important to remember even the EU started off as a simple trading alliance between two nations. I would like to start us down a road, taking the first few steps, if we are ready." Sato smiled. "We're here aren't we?" he said it wasn't a yes or a no. This was new ground after all, and it paid to be cautious. However somewhere deep under years of control he was curious. Was Xia Hong offering this in good faith? If so, then this could very well be one of the defining moments of the century, though on the other hand, a healthy dose of skepticisim, born of a life time of China as the enemy, one of those blocks Xia had spoken of, kept him from giving into it. Nemerenko sat silently, not saying anything. He waited patiently for others to voice their opinions. There was a long silence following the Russian's non-reply and Hong was not taking the moment to speak so, eventually Sato did. "What sort of trade agreements did you have in mind?" he asked. "And would they be bi-lateral, Russia to China, Japan to China, or would we all be agreeing to the same set of terms?" "I would hope that all parties could agree to an identical framework through which we can work, and modify as needs may dictate. Nor was I aiming to confine such an agreement to our nations, though as the leaders of the Pacific's greatest powers, I felt it important to gauge your reactions first." She offered truthfully, deciding it best that, if the two Korean representatives would not make themselves present, to continue on anyway. She sat down, passing to each of the leaders a bound copy of the agenda. "If your governments are receptive, it would be a great incentive for other nations to join us." Nemerenko looked over the agenda. It posed serious concerns for him. Russia was a European nation, not an Asian one. Russia did more trade with Germany or France than it did China or Japan. Increased trade with the two Asian powers was something he was all for, but he had no intention of linking his state into some sort of East Asian version of the EU. Not to mention that to this day he still regarded China and its leaders, for all their value, with great suspicion as a potential adversary. Particularly after the debacle involving the failed non-aggression pact. "An increase in trade is of course welcome," observed the Russian President. He braced himself for extreme acrimony. "As is the idea of more open diplomatic cooperation. But Russia is a European country, not an Asian one. And right now the Federation is not in a position to consider membership in any form of supranational union, be it this or the EU." It occurred to Nemerenko that he may have just marginalized his position; if Hong had gathered them here with the hidden intent to sell this idea, then she might simply dismiss Russia with condescension as somehow being useless to their plans. And he knew from experience she had a low personal opinion of him, especially when he disagreed with her. "I fully support and endorse your idea," he added. "It has worked for Europe and it can work for Asia. And Russia will be happy to be a partner to such an organization. But not a member." ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20070909/4739cc8b/attachment.html From pentaj2 at Scranton.edu Sat Sep 22 15:44:18 2007 From: pentaj2 at Scranton.edu (pentaj2 at Scranton.edu) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:44:18 -0400 Subject: [War] World Report, Volume 4 Message-ID: WAR: World Report, Volume 4 - For all actions since Volume 3, advancing the timeline to Mar 17 - Mar 31, 2013 United Nations Security Council (Permanent Members): United States, United Kingdom, France, China, Russia United Nations Security Council (Non-Permanent Members): Until September, 2013: India, Egypt, Norway, Mexico, Venezuela Until October, 2013: Canada, Chile, Italy, South Africa, Japan Pending UN Security Council Actions: None Pending UN General Assembly Actions: None United Nations Secretariat: No news. ============== GM Babble: Alright this took a while to get out but here it is, thanks to all of those who had hand in putting it together. Anyhow everyone, post and recruit. -Ian =============================================== WORLD NEWS (Please review the following topics for potential posting fodder): Final counts of survivors and dead released in Air China-JAL crash over Midway Honolulu, March 11 (AP) - After a delay of 3 days caused by difficulties notifying next of kin, the United States Coast Guard has released the final accounting of the numbers of those rescued and lost in the collision of JAL Flight 346 and Air China flight 453 over Midway Island in the Pacific. At a Honolulu news conference today, Coast Guard Rear Admiral Sally Brice-O'Hara, Commander of the Fourteenth Coast Guard District, spelled out the toll of the accident: "On JAL 346, of 418 aboard, 236 were rescued; Of those, 10 later died of wounds sustained in the crash. "On Air China 453, of 418 aboard, 210 were rescued; of those, 8 later died of wounds sustained in the crash. "The Cockpit Voice Recorders and Flight Data Recortders of both aircraft have been recovered and sent to the National Transportation Safety Board in Washington for analysis. "Due to the location of the crash, Coast Guard, Fish and Wildlife Service, and other responders were fortunate to recover all remains; unidentifiable remains have been sent to the United States Army Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii for initial classification and a first attempt at identification. DNA samples have been collected from all remains and have been sent to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology; Samples have been collected from family members to ensure the positive identification of remains before they are released." An NTSB spokesman confirmed that the joint FAA and NTSB investigation into the crash remains ongoing, and has yet to reach preliminary conclusions as to the cause. ACTION RESPONSES ============================= CANADA Population Approval: 57% Government Approval: 55% International Favor: 55% Economic Growth: 2.3% Average Inflation: 1.8% Unemployment: 7% ---------------------------------- The Canadian people are pleased with the performance of the MacIntyre Liberals since giving them their first majority in thirteen years. The governments early actions to make the Federal government more efficient is well received if not totally understood by the general population. However the results of the Prime Minister?s trip to Washington are. Albertans in general are very happy at the news their beef will be back on US shelves next year and the rest of the country is pleased to see that relations are improving with their neighbour to the south. However, they aren?t so sure about the scale of the military build up. While the government has done its best to show that the build up will be in manageable chunks, the people are a little taken a-back by the overall costs, and observers both inside and outside the defence industry wonder if the country really needs nuclear subs. The Conservatives, though traditionally for increases to military spending are making a big deal of the price tag, and are calling the ?trials? between the Virginia class nuclear subs and the German built U212-class a sham, as the conclusion is more or less a forgone conclusion. Former defence staff have agreed. The other trouble facing Prime Minister MacIntyre is the Triple-E Senate. While provinces who are going to receive more seats as a result of the changes are generally happy about the proposal, as are the people, though mostly it?s a knee jerk, democratic equals good approval. Meanwhile Quebec and Ontario are both promising to vote down the proposal which in turn has given the Senators cover to vote it down themselves. However there have been some back channel indications from the Ontario provincial government that if they dropped the changes to the number of seats each province would get, they might be more receptive. While both the Senate and Quebec stand firm in their opposition. ============================================= CHINA (PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF) Population Approval: 57% Government Approval: 59% International Favour: 51% Economic Growth: 9.6%, high Inflation: 2.7% Unemployment: 10.3% ---------------------------------- It has been a busy if not particularly pleasant couple of weeks for the Chinese government. Thanks to a massive outpouring of international aid and the swift action of the Chinese government the Mt. Baekdu clean up is going a pace. The quick assistance the Chinese gave the North Koreans has worked to soften international opinion about the occupation. While it isn?t exactly support, the world does concede that the North Koreans would not have saved as many lives trying to deal with the disaster on their own. The clean up is slated to be completed in a month. The rest of the news from North Korea is a mixed bag. The Ministry of State has assembled a provisional government and selected with consultation from the people governors for North Korea's provinces. The majority of those chosen are either figures from the now defunct Korean Workers Party or officers from the Korean People's Army. In short: meet the new boss same as the old boss and while the new government is getting the job done corruption is rampant. The majority of the 10 billion in business grants offered by the Chinese going to members of the government or officials in the bureaucracy causing concerns that this is the start of a political and financial elite. Militarily, the Ministry of Defence is reporting that the recruitment of the new North Korean Army is proceeding very well; the paint had barely dried on the new training camps before they were at maximum capacity. Most of this is credited to the lack of other employment opportunities in North Korea and the massive size of Korean People's Army before Chinese control. Predictably almost all of the former soldiers recruited do not meet Chinese requirements but they have taken to re-training with enthusiasm, and they expect the first units of the new North Korean Army will be in the field as early as three months from now. However the majority of these soldiers come from the North Korean political class and do not suffer from a life time of malnourishment. The next groups the Defence Ministry reports will be a mix of peasant and political classes and expect their performance will be poorer than the current units in training. Another concern is that of the state of North Korean equipment. It is outdated and in bad condition, the replacement program will have to be sweeping and thus expensive a cost North Korea is likely unable to bare easily. There have been some suggestion from within the Ministry of Defence of reducing the target size of the North Korean armed forces and thus the amount of new equipment required to make it function. On the Military's other front, keeping the country under control, things have been good, patrols and convoys in high risk areas have been better protected and attempts to them have been only occasionally effective. The Ministry of Security's efforts to round up the missing weapons have also been credited as part of this success though few weapons have been found; those in possession of them have been forced to spend more time looking over their shoulder than using them to attack Chinese forces. The Ministry of Security also reports that the prison torture equipment has been removed and while the facilities are hardly humane by western standards they share the same problems as most of the country, little heat, little power, little food, and are by the standards of the Chinese security services at least, good enough. And finally on the Korean front, the Chinese efforts at containing the diseases have so far kept them from crossing the borders into China (though South Korea's border is another matter) however the Ministry of Health has called for even stricter controls on the people coming in and out of the country and a thirty day quarantine for all troops returning to China, stating that an outbreak of a number of these diseases would be a disaster for China, both in loss of lives and economically. At present 2000 Chinese soldiers are reported to be infected by local diseases. Back home the President still enjoys strong support in the People's Congress, her centrist base and the war hawks have formed a strange coalition of support for the government's efforts in Korea and the clear goals of the mission have at least placated those who have wondered aloud, how long? And of course: how much? Though there is some division as to the future of North Korea, in general the centrists back the President's plan to allow the North Koreans to choose their destiny after the withdrawal of Chinese support, however the hardliners argue that since China bears the costs, they should bear the benefit, and push for the President to change her mind and push for more Chinese influence in the future of the broken state. Additionally the remaining true Marxists in the government quietly protest intervention in Korea as a break from their ideology. However it is not the first and certainly not the last time modern China has stepped away from its communist roots. The people though are generally pleased with how things are going, they were shocked to see the state of things in Korea during the Kim Regime, and feel a swell of pride at the notion of China going in to change that for the better. As well the outpouring of international support in the wake of Mt. Baekdu has given them a sense President Hong is greatly improving China's standing internationally. And lastly, the Ministry of Commerce's plan for the putting breaks on the Chinese economy has been put into effect they have used some of China?s vast store of US currency to buy back some of the Yuan on the market thus raising it?s value lowering the demand for Chinese goods overseas which has slowly begun to reign in China?s export based economy. ============================================= FRANCE Population Approval: 59% Government Approval: 55% International Favor: 53% Economic Growth: 2% Inflation: 2.6% Unemployment: 8% -------------------------------------------------------------------- No news to report. ============================================== GERMANY Population Approval: 55% Government Approval: 55% International Favor: 55% Economic Growth: 2.5% Inflation: 1.8% Unemployment: 7% ---------------------------------------------------------- No news to report. ============================================== JAPAN Population Approval: 61% Government Approval: 56% International Favor: 59% Economic Growth: 3% Inflation: 0.6% Unemployment: 3.9% ---------------------------------------------------------- Newly installed as Prime Minister of Japan, Shunichi Sato has had a true baptism by fire with the rapid storm of events that have struck the island nation. The PM's actions over the Akita tsunami disaster are widely applauded. Quick and timely economic intervention by the Diet is expected to help cushion the economic fallout and jumpstart reconstruction. With such good PR coming out of Sato's public visit to the affected areas, the top six Japanese construction firm have donated close to $300 million USD in material and manpower to the effort. US and Canadian lumber companies are trickling in resources slowly, but every bit helps. Likewise people are complementing the cooperative tone of Tokyo in regards to the recent airline disaster and how smoothly things (seem) to be working with the United States and China over the crash. To no one's surprise the Kuril Islands Treaty is defeated 430 to 50 in the Lower House of the Diet. Moscow has simply shrugged and retained control of the entire island chain. However people are generally nodding their heads at the trade treaty which will bring in a modest amount of capital and jobs. The acquisition of Russian missile technology continues to make some people nervous, but with China's recent military activity it is becoming, along with the joint rifle development program with the US and UK, a necessity of national defence in the eyes of many. Lastly, the anti-piracy project is finally getting of the ground with Singapore's inclusion. If all goes well, the crackdown in piracy could save all of the Asia-Pacific region up to a billion dollars a year in goods lost to pirate activities. ====================================================== UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND Population Approval: 58% Government Approval: 59% International Favor: 56% Economic Growth: 3.45%, Average. Inflation: 2.5% Unemployment: 5.3% ---------------------------------------------------------- No news to report. ============================================= UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Population Approval: 60% Government Approval: 57% International Favour: 63% Economic Growth: 2.9% Inflation: 3.3% Unemployment: 4.6% ---------------------- Things are more or less rosy if not very exciting in Washington right now. The American public and the international community were pleased to see the US?s swift and competent response to the Mt. Bakedu disaster. An opinion improved by the fact the US worked together with the Chinese to do so; which see as evidence that future cooperation is possible. This has not however stemmed the tide of calls for action on North Korea from Congress. The suggestions range from holding a summit with China other leaders in the region to dropping bombs on Beijing. However both camps and everyone in between agree a list of objectives sent to the local powers is not enough; especially when none of those powers seem to be listening. Nemerenko?s informal visit is seen as a positive in the Russo-American relationship and a sign that the Cold War might be well and truly over. The free trade agreement that was signed is looked at as a good move on the administration?s part as the Russian and American markets are very compatible for trading. Or they are except where lumber and cattle states are concerned. The idea of tariff free lumber and beef coming in from Russia has threatened these industries domestic market share and caused an uproar. Especially in the beef industry who was sent reeling a short time later from the FDA?s announcement that Canadian beef would be allowed across the border. Protests and boycotts have been planned by both industries and the congressmen and senators from the cattle and lumber states have been getting an earful but it looks like the treaty will pass smoothly through the house. The visit of Prime Minister MacIntyre and his address to Congress was well received domestically. The DoD in particular is thrilled that Canada is *finally* pulling its weight in defence and the contractors who will profit directly from the build up are very happy as well. They are less happy with the review of the ADS. The reviews of the medical professional associations were fairly objective in saying yes it?s an unnerving concept, but the facts are it?s less lethal than existing crowd control measures. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch however posed a difficult question for the DoD reps: will this weapon be used on Americans and if not why then propose to use it on citizens of other countries? This has caused some discomfort in the defence establishment and a lot of buck passing as nobody wants to be the one to say, yes we?ll use our new pain ray on Americans or no but we will use it on foreign nationals. As it is an otherwise a slow news week domestically this question has been getting considerable play in the media and with it the demand *someone* answer something more than ?it?s under review?. In economic news China's efforts to curb its runaway economy is being felt in America through rising prices on both Chinese and American made goods; the last due to the fact Chinese made products are part of almost everyone?s supply chain. This has caused American manufacturers and importers to shift away from Chinese suppliers in favour of India. This in turn has caused State to suggest to the Administration that this might be a good time for furthering trade talks with India. Additionally the Federal Reserve is watching the dollar carefully as result of the Chinese sale, and will take measures to counter any steeper drop in value if China should continue to buy back the Yuan with US dollars. In the meantime the slight dip in value of the dollar has increased exports and should it continue will be a boon for the summer tourist season. Finally, the swift and efficient action is generally praised by the FAA and USCG but members of the State department are a little concerned by the blunt instrument of the President's influence being used here and the possible fallout it may cause with the Japanese and Chinese governments. ============================================= ECONOMIC INDICATORS NOTE: Initial indicators were gleaned from as recent sources as possible, for the most recent term possible (annualized). In some cases, the numbers used are published estimates, but the English- speaking nations' data is more or less right from the source. Depression: Economic forces retracting uncontrolably and at a dangerous pace with little end in sight. Recession: Economic forces retracting, but more shallow than Depression and more controlably. Sometimes necessary and part of regular economic trends, although prelonged. Revision: Economic forces retracting slightly and short term, associated with economic systems refitting to accomodate new industries, concentrations, etc. Zero: No movement one way or the other. Low: Comparatively low Economic growth/activity. (miniscule to about 2%, depending) Good: Average economic activity (ranging from 2%-5% normally) High: Above average performance (Greater than 5%) Sometimes dangerous if in excess of 8% continuously. SITES OF INTEREST WAR Website: http://war.dagarcia.net/ Nova Horizon Simulations: http://www.novahorizon.com United Nations: http://www.un.org/ Central Intelligence Agency: http://www.cia.gov/ CIA World Factbook: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ Federation of American Scientists: http://www.fas.org/ GlobalSecurity.org: http://www.globalsecurity.org/ CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ BBC: http://www.bbc.com/ New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/ From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Sat Sep 22 23:31:23 2007 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:31:23 EDT Subject: [War] "Beijing Conference" Finale Message-ID: (You all know the header by now) ================================= Xia nodded. She honestly hadn't expected much of a warm reception for it, especially not from Russia, and the fact they were willing to support and interact with any potential agency was something well beyond what she expected. It was a sign of possible success, all things considered. "I can certainly respect your decision Mister President, and we would welcome Russia as a trading partner." "As does Japan," Sato said nodding to the Russian President before turning to President Hong. "Japan would be interested in pursuing this closer relationship between the Asian nations as a full member of that alliance. That said, how do we proceed? We are not all of an accord about this alliance, so I think perhaps settling the details of this agreement should wait until later, but for the present, shall we discuss North Korea, even if the others have not arrived?" "That seems to be a wise course of action," agreed Nemerenko. With Russia's position clear, only China and Japan could negotiate about the proposed organization. "Then let us proceed." Xia nodded her concurrence, folding her hands on the table. "As I've iterated to President Nemerenko and his delegation previously, China believes that above all else the sovereignty and integrity of the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea must rest in the hands of the North Koreans. On this point I'm sure we can all agree?" "Agreed," said Nemerenko with a nod. "But care must be taken in the construction of a new North Korean national government. History has shown us, and I can say from personal experience, that the reconstruction of governments from dictatorships often creates corruption and malpractice. And as the DPRK was one of the most repressive and totalitarian regimes since Hitler, Stalin or Mao, the everyday people of North Korea are not prepared to create a functioning government on their own. More mature nations must lend them their experience and advice in how to weather this transition." "Agreed," Sato said. "Though we must fall short of dictating a government upon them as well. My suggestion is that an advisory council be formed made up of Chinese, Russians, Japanese and if they show up, Koreans to oversee the transition and offer advice to the provisional government. And I would like to further suggest, we do our best to convince the provisional government, that the best way to promote democracy, is to start from the village or ward level and expand upwards, after all the key to democracy is a society accustomed to participation in it's process. So, let them choose who speaks for their village, or city ward, then expand that to their province, and then finally their country. At least that is what I think," Sato said and then smiled. "Though I realize belatedly, that I am contradicting myself by suggesting this as it comes very near dictating how their government should be formed." All this talk about what 'they' should do in North Korea made Xia cringe internally. Chinese troops bled to take the North, and were sweating to keep the North safe enough that major humanitarian disasters could be avoided. Though the Russians had a definite stake in terms of their own aid workers, Japan itself didn't have much claim, and she feared American influence oozing in via Japan. "We must allow the North Korean government to develop naturally. The American invasion of Iraq is proof positive that simply forcing any kind of government on a people, even democracy, is doomed to failure. We have a current basic framework in place as it stands, if the North Korean people decide to change that framework, they must be allowed to. Likewise, I find it difficult to justify any decision being made at this table about another nation's government. I think it would be more beneficial to limit the focus of our discussions to providing increased aid and humanitarian efforts, which will help the North Koreans gain security and thus encourage them to develop." *This* was what Sato had expected out of this conversation. Being told by China that this was their project and the rest of the world was not to interefere. It was nice to see his predictions were not entirely wrong about the Chinese government's position. He nodded. "You are correct, those things are very important, but I think the first step towards cooperation President Hong is trust, and while person to person I trust you; my government will not be so forgiving," he said. "If you gave us something, a sign of trust on your part, like allowing us to form the advisory council, or if you prefer something less formal allowing a Japanese delegation to be sent to Pyongyang, to observe and communicate with the new government. This would calm any suspicions in those who see North Korea as a future Chinese puppet state and would be of assistance to China in that the western world, specifically America, would likely be more willing to trust reports on the North Korean's progress if they were written by a neutral party, like Japan. Which in turn will accomplish your latter goal of improved aid. Because while I understand China feels a certain ownership of this project, after all whose sons are at risk to keep the peace even as we speak? The rest of the world will be hesitant to believe reports from Chinese or North Korean sources, which will in turn lessen if not completely remove the chance they will contribute aid, which will reduce North Korea's security, and in the end cost more Chinese lives. All Japan asks, is that we be allowed to be on hand to observe the process as it progresses in North Korea and be on hand to offer any advice and experience we might have to share to the provisional government, if and when they ask." "With all due respect Mister Prime Minister, so long as American troops are on Japanese soil I hardly consider Japan 'objective'." She may have been Chinese, but the smirk on her face was the distinct hallmark of American style sarcasm. "But at the same time I see no reason we can't reach an agreement. Russian workers and observers are in North Korea already, and for the benefit of the North Koreans I'm certainly willing to offer the same protection and security agreements to Japanese observers. I'm sure you'll understand if I must insist on each Japanese observer being provided a Chinese security team... the last thing I would want is to be blamed for allowing foreign citizens to die because I failed to offer adequate protection. In addition any and all aid stations set up by Japan or Japanese agencies would be similarly protected, you have my word." Nemerenko looked at Sato out of the corner of his eye. Hong had, in the opinion of the Russian president, gravely insulted the Japanese PM by implying Japan was a puppet state of the United States. Now while that was Sato's problem and not his, the greater allusion was. He set down his tea and turned to regard Hong clearly. "Madam President, just how much of all this is about the United States of America?" Sato nodded waiting to here Hong's reply before he made any comment. "Thirty-thousand American combat troops are stationed in South Korea. The American Pacific fleet maintains facilities in Japan, which is also home to thousands more American troops, and Russia herself hosted a joint military exercise with the Americans who maintain a hostile stand-off policy with China militarily, just after your government tenaciously sought to negotiate a Non-Aggression pact with China." If she was going to get cornered, she intended on laying it all out on the table. "Furthermore, the Americans have made it obvious they prefer a single unified Korea, which would move their troops even 'closer' to Chinese territory. As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, you just recently returned from a trip to the United States, so tell me, Mister President, how much of this 'is' about America?" Inwardly Nemernko smiled about the joint US-Russian wargames exercise. If it had gotten the Chinese rattled then they'd be less inclined to accelerate the plans many in the Ministry of Defence suspected China had of invading Siberia. "You're being far too paranoid," commented Nemerenko. "First, no American military forces in our joint wargames came within a thousand kilometers of the Sino-Russo border. Siberia is a very big place, after all. I see it as no different from when WE staged wargames exercises together in the early 2000s. Second, yes I did meet with President Williams recently. Russia wishes to pursue peaceful relations with America after over half a century of hostility. In fact, I believe MOST world leaders at some point meet or speak with the President of the United States, including many of your predecessors. If that now makes people suspect in the view of China, well, you have just become very alone in this world Madam President. You have my sympathies." He sipped picked up his tea and sipped it casually, for effect. "Of course there are American military forces in South Korea and Japan. Fitting that they only become such a major concern now. Remember that it is those same military forces that since the Korean War kept the free people of South Korea and Japan safe from the tyranny and aggression of North Korea while China, and I must admit Russia also, did little. If anything we both helped keep that despicable regime alive for as long as it was. You are a former military officer; you know that it will take time for them to move those forces out. If they ever do, which I doubt. There are thirty thousand American troops on the Korean peninsula? There are HUNDREDS of thousands of Chinese troops there as well! If you were South Korea, wouldn't you want some insurance against the the might of the PLA staring you down the face? "I know you regard America as a rival. I know that they have also in the past demonstrated imperialistic tendencies. So has the PRC. Don't get me wrong, I would be wary of the USA if I was in your position. But you are now accusing us all of being puppets based upon our very reasonable, and in the case of Japan and South Korea, very necessary relations with them, and are using this as an excuse to stonewall all foreign observation and oversight of your occupation of a sovereign nation." Nemerenko caught himself. He had to remember that in the end he didn't give two shits about who rules North Korea, and not let his personal fear of Hong and China cloud his judgment. "Make no mistake I do not contest the necessity of your invasion," he added. "It was either China moves in or North Korea disintegrating into a bloody civil war that destabilized the Far East. The question is about how legitimate your future plans for North Korea are." He turned to Sato. It was about time Japan started saying a bit. "What do you think, Prime Minister?" Outwardly nothing of Xia's facade changed. Inwardly however, she wished she could deck Nemerenko something rough. "Several hundred thousand Chinese troops were not there a year ago. Nor were they in Korea two years ago, or five, or ten. The United States has spent five decades in the Korean peninsula, despite the fact that the South had maintained a force ratio highly in their favor alone. If it's Chinese troops that are feared, allow me to allay your concerns. My government will gladly sign peace and non-aggression treaties with the governments of South Korea and Japan, provided realistic timetables for the withdrawal of American forces from these countries is provided." Clearly Prime Minister Sato had become the focus of the conversation. "You had asked for reassurances, Prime Minister. I offer them, the question now is if you believe your nation can accept." "Actually Madam President," Sato chuckled. "The question is if I want to follow my predecessor into a forced retirement. You can't seriously believe that Korea or Japan in the current political climate can afford to discuss the withdrawal of US troops from our country? Our people are afraid of yours, and it will take more than a piece of paper with all our signatures on it to assure them they or their children won't wake up one day and find themselves a Chinese province." He let that sink in as he sipped his tea. "That said President Hong, we all know that is not a realistic scenario, but it *is* what people think when they think about China in Japan. It's unfortunate, just as it is unfortunate that your hardliners see the Japanese as the imperialistic invaders of the past century, or as you alluded to earlier, puppets of the United States. In the end though it falls to us you and I, to show our people that things change, that we are not enemies but potential allies. Unfortunately pushing for the United States to withdraw it's forces from the region is not how it will be done. The US presence is tolerated by the Korean and Japanese peoples as a symptom of their fear of you, if you can work with me and if we can avoid wasting this opportunity at a history making summit exchanging insults like school children we can make a difference you and I and someday, hopefully in the near future, the US will be gone from the region, and Asia will be run by Asians. As it stands though, our fear of you drives my country closer to the US and your fear of the US drives you further from us. So, say what you will President Hong, we are both you and I puppets dancing on the same strings pulled by the same masters. So, how do we begin to cut the strings. We do so by working closer together and this situation in North Korea provides that opportunity. So this is what I offer. First, I will accept your terms for our observers, however I ask that it be a joint Japanese and Chinese security detail for the sake of cooperation. Second, I am willing to offer Japanese assistance in upgrading the North Korean infrastructure specifically in the areas of transport and power, third I offer money, equipment and expertise to the ongoing effort both Russia and China are making to find cures and contain the illnesses discovered in North Korea. Lastly, I propose regular summits to continue this dialogue and continue the peaceful association of our two countries, in preparation for the creation of the much larger Asian alliance, after all if you and I can't get along President Hong, what hope is there for the countries that *really* hate each other?" he asked with a smile, knowing full well that few countries, even in Asia, where the hatred could run as deep as it did between Japan and China. Well except perhaps Japan and Korea. "I must concur that it is unreasonable for you to expect South Korea, and certainly not Japan, to have American forces leave their territory in the near future," observed Nemerenko. "I also question your sincerity in regards to your offer of a non-aggression pact for both South Korea and Japan. When my government offered a similar proposal, under much more cordial circumstances, you flatly refused and cited vague reasons for it somehow making the UN irrelevant, even though the UN actively encourages such treaties as it did during the Cold War. Now you yourself make the same type of offer. You say one thing, then do another. You are bargaining in bad faith." "It's impossible to bargain with a fool." Xia, who plainly reached her limit with the Russian President spoke equally succinctly. "It was you who pulled away from a bi-lateral agreement regarding military corporation over some paranoid fear of China's lust to spend the lives of it's people invading a vast frozen wasteland when we can buy the resources for far cheaper then any ultimately unwinnable war would cost. You who would offer an agreement and then revoke it 'dare' to lecture me about 'bargaining in bad faith'? Right after Prime Minister Sato correctly pointed out discussions must remain cordial none the less? The fact of the matter is Mister President, if anyone came to this table in bad faith, it was you." That being said, she turned her attention back to her Japanese compatriot. "My apologies, Mister Prime Minister. China certainly accepts all conditions you've placed upon Japanese participation in North Korea, and on a personal note I would very much be interested in keeping open a permanent line of communication between our two nations. May I suggest a bi-lateral Cooperation Council be established to monitor the mutual concerns and interests of Japan and China, and provide advice on how we can work together more affirmatively?" Hong's outburst did not seem to phase the Russian leader, coming from a nation where hot-blooded debate had led to multiple brawls on the floor of the national parliament. If anything he had a hard time not letting his neutral poker face slide into a look of utter amusement. Instead he looked over at Sato to see how he responded to Hong's offer. Sato had blinked when Hong had began her outburst, Sato was not one to shy away from conflict, but still something deeply cultural still left him feeling uncomfortable afterwards. However Sato was not one to let that sway him away from making a good deal. He took a moment to sip his tea gather his composure and then replied with a smile as though the outburst at President Nemerenko had not happened before the offer. "A good idea," he said. "It would give both our peoples a chance to work more closely together and see that the enemy they saw one another as, was a product of history and not reality," he sat back in his chair and looked from the neutral face of Nemerenko to the still slightly flushed President Hong. "So then what's next?" "I believe we should move forward with attempting to enact what we've established in terms of understanding here." Xia offered in a calculatedly cool manner, the exact opposite of what she appeared to be only a moment ago. "And perhaps we can agree to a location and time for our next meeting?" It was an open question, even to Nemerenko. Just because she wanted to run the guy over personally didn't mean she wanted to stop working with Russia. Sato nodded. "Tokyo is nice in the late spring. Would there be any objections to meeting there?" This too was an open question. Nemerenko was not excluded from the invitation. "As to enacting what we have discussed here," he beckoned Akemi up and took the folders she offered and handed them to both Hong and Nemerenko. "Japan is offering a special grant of 10 million USD to aid in the research of the diseases discovered in North Korea, and through our funding of the institution, we have also recruited the help of Osaka University, one of Japan's premier medical schools to lend us lab space and specialists. In fact, I understand many of them jumped at the chance to get involved. As for the infrastructure project our numbers in this area are soft as we didn't have an assesment on the exact amount of work that needs to be done, though our interest is in making sure the whole country can have and keep electric power provided if possible by non-nuclear sources, and to convert the country's rail system to one that is compatible with the gauges used by the rest of Asia." "That seems like a logical step," observed Nemerenko. He still appeared rather amused, as if somehow he had won something. "Although creating a stable law and order environment must take priority before we begin planning too far ahead." "Yes though, President Hong I think made it clear that was going to be primarily a Chinese concern. After all it is her people on the ground doing the work." "And let us let them do that before we get ahead of ourselves," said the Russian President. "We have set out to do much here. Let us allow the PLA to conduct its operations and discuss further involvement and aid at Tokyo." ======================================================== ACTIONS 1. Japan to offer assistance to North Korea. Japanese observers to be allowed into the country, escorted by Chinese and Japanese security details. Japanese medical assistance will be used to contain/cure outbreaks in North Korea, and engineering expertise to be used to collaborate on rebuilding North Korea's infrastructure. 2. China and Japan to begin taking trust building measures towards the ultimate goal of establishing a more tightly networked Asia, starting with trade agreements. A mutual cooperation council to be set up to monitor mutual interests and provide regular reports and suggestions to both governments. 3. Agreement for a next series of conferences to be made, setting will be Tokyo. 4. Russia and China to strengthen military collaboration. (Despite their leaders' mutual hatred for each other) Russia, China, and Japan to agree to tighter economic ties. 5. North Korea to be allowed to develop on it's own. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20070922/8801c5cd/attachment-0001.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 23 01:09:58 2007 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Daniel Garcia) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:09:58 -0400 Subject: [War] France: One Code to Rule Them All Message-ID: <5C002C83-D5B3-49FC-BA0A-A3DA180DA2C1@yahoo.com> "France: One Code to Rule Them All" President Zo? Amp?re, French Republic April 1st, 2013 (OOC: I wrote this instead of doing other things I really should be doing... :) ). [This letter is directed to the EU member state governments, and is generally private though some of the general outlines of what is said will and should make it to the press.] Dearest Colleagues, The recently concluded Beijing Conference between the East Asian powers of China, Japan, and Russia has raised the prospect of a new economic bloc which could conceivably, assuming that the directions signaled by the Conference are followed through to their stated destinations, pose a significant danger to the place and position of the European Union, particularly in economic affairs. The possible dynamical combination of Japanese capital, Chinese labor, and Russian resources has the potential to dramatically shift the economic center of the world sharply away from Europe, to the detriment of the European economic position. The European Union was born, in a historical sense, out of efforts to pool economic resources and capital in the aftermath of the Second World War. The first fifty years of this collaboration led to significant and even spectacular economic gains. The reasons for this are wide and varied, but include the fact that the institutions which would eventually become the cornerstones of the European Union were a force for economic liberalization, fair competition, and free markets and trade. Since the 1990's, Europe has faced a relative decline in economic power. The expansion of the European Union has helped to disguise this fact, and indeed some relative decline should be expected as many of the poorer states in the world develop economically. However, this decline has also partly been relative to other developed nations, including and in particular the United States of America. There are many things that this decline can be attributed to, but one of them must sadly be the European Union itself, and in particular the increasing bureaucratization of the EU governing bodies. Since the 1990's, large quantities of legislation have been passed in the member states to comply with European Union law. This explosion in law has led to a vast increase in red tape. In short, the European Union, instead of acting in its historical place as a champion of economic growth and liberalization, has worked in effect, though not in intention, to diminish economic growth. The French government is deeply concerned about these trends. In some political groups in France, this has led to dissatisfaction with the European Experiment (OOC: Note that, among other things, this is a veiled reference to some reasonably strong Euro-skepticism among the ruling party and some lose to the government.). The French government believes that a new approach is desirable in light of these issues, and would like to make a general proposal. One of the larger roadblocks to economic activity in the European Union is that, despite the drafting of many laws at the European level, it is in the end up to the various member states to implement the European legislation. This can result in subtle but important differences in law between member states. This is not an efficient procedure, even taking into account the desire of many member states to "opt-out" of certain portions of European law. The French government would like to propose that the European Union adopt a more uniform law code, at least in economic and business law. This code would not necessarily need to be in force in its totality in all member states, but would instead serve as a uniform framework. Some portions of this code would be mandatory for all states, and others be optional in adoption. But, the key to this scheme is that the member states would not create their own interpretations of the wider European law, but simply confirm, via ordinary legislative procedures, the validity of the code, or those portions of it which are mandatory or desirable. The advantage of this scheme is that a business would only need to know, understand, and consult one body of law with which it would need to apply to its operations so that it might operate across the whole Union. And in the case of those portions of the code which are not mandatory for member states, a business would only need to know that a certain portion of the code is not operative in a given member state and thus choose to alter its operations accordingly. The French government believes this proposal, which is in part daring and in part a logical extension of and remedy for the current system, is at least an important starting point for discussions on how to restore the competitiveness of the European economy. Moreover, it would be an important step towards revitalizing the European Union as a vehicle for economic growth and liberalization. Finally, it could serve to address concerns of those portions of the European electorate who are growing ever more skeptical at the ability of the European Union to make a meaningful, positive difference to the lives of the people of Europe, heading off the possibility that such skeptics could gain power and influence within a major European government. Such a reform would also boost European economic competitiveness and economies of scale and help stem Europe's relative economic decline. This must be seen as particularly important in light of the prospects for a high degree of economic cooperation to develop in East Asia. Though these prospects are only that, prospects, their realization, even if partial, could detrimentally affect Europe's role in the world. Sincerely, Zo? Amp?re President of the French Republic ACTIONS: 1) Privately (but not necessarily secretly) circulate the above letter to the EU member governments. 2) Tentatively propose a European uniform code of business law. 3) Warn in a vague and veiled way of the rise of Euro-skepticism, particularly with an eye towards France. From pentaj2 at Scranton.edu Sun Sep 23 12:15:30 2007 From: pentaj2 at Scranton.edu (pentaj2 at Scranton.edu) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:15:30 -0400 Subject: [War] US: Taking Advantage of Opportunities Message-ID: "Taking Advantage of Opportunities" 18 March 2013 Pres. John Williams USA ============================ "Okay, hope everybody enjoyed their St. Patrick's Day. Now, we have opportunities arising and possibly limited windows in which to grab them, so we'll be moving quick," Williams said to his assembled Cabinet. This wasn't a session for discussion so much as assignments and strategy. "First off: Chris, your idea in regards to India is a go. You will meet with Bill," he said, gesturing to Bill McBain, the US Trade Representative, "and approach the Indians with regards to furthering talks on a bilateral trade deal. Bob," here he glanced to the VP, "will be working the Hill with your colleagues at Commerce, Labor, and Treasury to convince Congress to sign on. "Next: I've noted the questions put forth by the human rights groups in regard to ADS. Julius, you and me are going to meet with the Joint Chiefs, DOD General Counsel, and whoever else wants to help us thrash out that issue. Because they're right: If we can't use it on our own citizens, we shouldn't use it on foreigners. So we're going to look, privately, at the moral and legal issues, and then we're going to blitz the airwaves with our decision. Including me going on the morning shows or the Sunday Morning circuit, if need be. "Last but not least: Me, Julius, Nick, Chris, and JCS. DPRK. We need to start considering actual actions. Obviously, hoping the locals would ease China out ain't working. Wednesday, 0900, The Tank. "Finally: Next week is Holy Week. I've taken up the Archbishop's invitation, and am going on retreat from Palm Sunday to Holy Saturday. I'll still be in communication, still be briefed as usual, but no appointments unless Yet Another Crisis hits," Williams concluded. "Bob will not be recieving anything under the 25th Amendment." "You sure this is a good time for that?" asked Kevin Sisco, the White House Chief of Staff. "Yes. Showing what I actually believe: That things are SO under control that I don't -need- to be in Washington 24/7/365," Williams replied. Orders having been given, the group dispersed. ====== Actions: 1. USTR and SECSTATE to mutually approach India on furthering talks on a trade deal, given China's weakness. 2. VP, Commerce, Labor, and Treasury will work the Hill to get Congressional agreement and/or acquiescence on said trade maneuvers: We have an opportunity opening, we gotta take it, we can't afford Congress slowing things down or nibbling away at an agreement already signed. 3. POTUS, SECDEF, DOD General Counsel, and JCS, along with whoever else wants to join the discussion, will privately thrash out the moral and legal issues in regards to ADS. Once a decision is made, it will be blitzed all over the airwaves after Easter, including POTUS potentially making the rounds of the network morning shows and/or the Sunday Morning circuit to explain the discussion and keep promoting it. 4. Various Folks will be meeting in a location known as The Tank to discuss the DPRK. 5. The President and First Lady, at the invitation of the Cardinal- Archbishop of Washington, will be on retreat from Palm Sunday to Holy Saturday, before proceeding to Camp David for Easter with family, friends, pets, and the local wildlife - Camp David is said to have deer about, and they're teeming in the surrounding park. From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 10:55:03 2007 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:25:03 -0230 Subject: [War] Canada/China: "Sitting Down to Talk" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70709280755k57ab66fmcf0a9901d738df3@mail.gmail.com> "Sitting Down to Talk" Prime Minister MacIntyre, Canada Ambassador Jao, People's Republic of China 20 March 2013 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- MacIntyre had been happy with how his summit with President Williams had gone. One of the key criticisms of the PM during his election campaign was his relative lack of experience in international affairs and diplomacy. His relatively successful discourse with Williams had, MacIntyre hoped, given him more credibility in that field. The PM cautioned himself that Canada had historically enjoyed at the very least fair relations with the US and a traditional understanding of cooperation between both nations. Other countries were less accommodating, and required more delicate handling. "Like China," said Ingram. MacIntyre looked over at her. His Chief Political Advisor had probably been speaking the exact same thing MacIntyre had been thinking, he just hadn't bothered listening to yet another of her worrisome lectures. "Don't think that they'll be anywhere near as compliant as the President was." "As I understand it, we enjoy pretty good relations with China as it is," replied MacIntyre. He had of course read into the subject in detail. Canada generally had the most cooperative and cordial relation with the People's Republic out of all the Western nations, which dated back to Trudeau being the first NATO leader to open formal relations in 1970, two years before Nixon's visit and nine years before Congress broke it off with the ROC and formally recognized the PRC. "We have no territorial disputes with them, no military concerns in Asia, and no diplomatic problems. We'll talk trade and technology." "You said you would press them on intellectual property laws and patent rights," noted Ingram. MacIntyre nodded. "Yes, I did, and I will," assured the PM. "But let's go into this with a positive attitude, shall we?" Ambassador Win Jao had spent the better part of the last week preparing for this upcoming discussion. It was rare to be given the chance for such a high-level dialogue, but with the invasion of North Korea and the Beijing Conference ongoing, it was decided that international cooperation and diplomacy should be a cornerstone of China's foreign policy. This particularly included the new world nations, and although President Hong would soon be making her own trip to the Americas, the foundation of understanding and communication always remained, as per tradition, between the Embassy of one nation, and the government of another. Win was a full sixty-five years old... but despite his age was at the very peak of his game, and career, in China's Ministry of State. He'd served in several important posts over his career... helping to oversee the successful transfer of Hong Kong to Chinese control, serving as China's formal ambassador to the European Union, and prior to his assignment in Canada working in the United Nations as a senior advisor to China's formal mission. He knew a lot about the west and it's ways... how to speak nearly perfect English (his accent 'did' cut in at times, much like the President's did), attended several semesters worth of classes at Johns Hopkins, Harvard, and Queens University. He was one of the few classically trained diplomats (by western standards) at Xia's disposal, and she'd seen fit to place him in Canada for several reasons. "Mister Prime Minister." Win smiled warmly and genuinely, he had always been the kind of person who loved associating with people, and learning about the various cultures and societies that made up the 'global tapestry' as his doctoral thesis had called it. Even with critics of China's policies or government attacked, he was the type to simply shrug it off as part of his job, maintain a warm smile, and attempt a more personal connection, which he saw as vital to substantive advancement in any of the dozens of major issues facing the People's Republic at any given time. "It is a great pleasure to finally meet you in person. I am looking forward to working with you as I did your predecessor." He offered his hand after straightening his immaculate suit. "Your government was gracious enough to provide me in advance a compendium of the topics you wished to cover today. I've consulted with Beijing and hopefully we can reach a level of understanding. Correct me if I am wrong, but you wished to discuss issues of mutual trade and technology?" Understandably China was very interested in both. Chinese heavy industry viewed Canada as a potential source not only of expertise, but of buyers of finished products. Atop that, Canada was a global leader in the development of green technologies and environmental engineering... and China was most definitely interested in acquiring that know how and technology. It was no secret among the people of China that President Hong viewed environmental concerns as one of the top problems facing them. "Ambassador," responded MacIntyre, accepting Win Jao's hand and shaking it firmly. "As always, Canada is happy to have a face-to-face discourse with our friends across the Pacific. Please, follow me." The PM usually hosted foreign dignitaries in his own office in the Central Bloc. Large, sweeping conference rooms created too much of a standoff-ish atmosphere and obstructed real dialog and negotiation with too much formality. "I remember when I was finish my degree at Dalhouise that the Cold War ended," commented MacIntyre as he sat down in one of the armchairs clustered around the oval coffee table in the middle of the office. "The end of communism in Europe. Your country had already begun its own transition to capitalism. I thought that maybe, perhaps, the idea of mutual trade between us, the West, and emerging capitalist states would be what would really create a true state of global peace. Some ways it did, some way it didn't. There was that eleven-year lull, apart from brush fire wars like the Persian Gulf of Yugoslavia. But then September 11th, the 'War on Terror,' the Iraq War......." The Prime Minister shrugged. "And here we were, twelve years later, in the middle of another lull. Islamic extremism is still a problem but Bin Laden is dead and democracy has finally been brought to Afghanistan and Iraq. Now I think it's time for us to start working on that whole 'era of peace' thing, and maybe not get sidetracked like we did twelve years ago. And I think relations between Canada and China are a good place to start. "Anyway, the first issue is trade. China is a big source of imports for Canada. In particular textiles, footwear, toys and plastics. We, on the other hand, can offer China a great deal of things that I am sure you country could use. Cars and auto parts, and prices a bit fairer than what the Americans charge you, to begin with. Second, wheat and cattle. Canada can produce and export both in abundance and you have 1.4 billion mouths to feed. Third and most importantly, uranium and the reactor technology. The two CANDU reactors we built you are still chugging along nicely, and our scientists at Chalk River have finalized the first Advanced CANDU Reactor, or ACR, prototype. China needs energy, and no one wants to become MORE dependent on oil." Not a diplomat by training, MacIntyre was a businessman. He was careful to put out options but made no overt proposals. Let the Chinese pick out what they wanted to run with, and then they could go from there. Win nodded, folding his hands as both men began their discourse. "Certainly it's China's position that all responsible nations should pursue peaceful coexistence with each other. Unfortunately events in North Korea may make that seem like hollow words, but the fact remains that the only reason the invasion took place is because a peace at the expense of millions and possibly billions should North Korea's nuclear materials have fallen into the wrong hands was simply unacceptable to live with." He straightened a little, confident that he'd explained the North Korean issue adequately. "We certainly appreciate the incredible technology Canada has access to, and President Hong places high priority on petroleum independence. Were Canadian companies to approach the Chinese government, I'm sure they would find a very warm reception for testing the new ACR. I'm absolutely certain our universities and the students they educate would benefit greatly from the research potential. As for auto-parts, China has it's own manufacturers and companies, and simply I'm not authorized to speak on their behalf. I've gotten direct word from the President however that China will adjust policy to be generally receptive of Canadian goods. Both nations, we believe, would benefit from stronger economic ties." "Well since there is only one Canadian company that handles our nuclear industry and it's owned by the Crown, consider the offer already made," grinned MacIntyre. "I am also glad you are receptive to Canadian agricultural exports. "Nuclear power aside, if China were to agree to free trade when it comes to Canadian beef and wheat exports, I will lift all tariffs on Chinese-made textiles and footwear, your number one export to Canada." "Why not go further?" Win adjusted himself as he spoke, leaning slightly further in as his interest in what the Canadian leader was offering increased. "China is naturally very supportive of free trade policies. We have benefited from it extensively, and believe that it can certainly be a tool for the poorer nations of the world to help lift themselves from poverty when used responsibly. To that end, why not consider establishing a free trade pact? Such an agreement would be greatly beneficial to both our nations." MacIntyre shook his head. "No, that's too far and too fast of a step to consider at this time. Further discussion may be appropriate for a future time, but not now." "I'm sorry to hear that, though I do understand the need to proceed carefully. That being said, I do not believe such an exchange would be equivalently in each party's favor. Would you consider eliminating tariffs on Chinese made steel and heavy industrial products as well?" "Not equivalent?" MacIntyre was no diplomat but he was a businessman and wasn't going to get talked into anything more than he wanted. "I think it's very equivalent. I give you free trade on your top export to my country, which I can also get from India and a very similar rate to what China exports for I should point out, and you get free trade on food you NEED to feed your 1.3 billion people. My offer is very fair and will not change." "With all due respect Mister Prime Minister, food is cheap and plentiful. If you do not produce it, we will simply pay those who will for a resource that is overly abundant and subsidizes more than one nation on this Earth. That being said, India is a primarily service-oriented economy, and far less an industrial power house than China. We can produce in numbers well beyond what you'll get from India, and at the same time with more interest in Indian goods, their prices will begin increasing fairly rapidly. Are you prepared to face voter back-lash and a severe economic reversal given much of your reputation is based on your business acumen?" Win shrugged. "Besides, Indian policy has always favored tariffs on foreign products. You will not get this kind of cooperation that China offers from the Indian government. Much of the machinery and heavy industrial products upon which your nation's very affluent economy is based already originate in China. It would be a great boon to have access to these products without having to pay the taxes imposed by tariffs." Now he was getting irritated. He was not and never had the intention of creating such a massive trade increase with China. His offer had been modest but fair, and now this guy was pushing him too hard. Time to push back. "You ask me for too much," countered MacIntyre. "You want Canada to buy and buy and buy from you and offer us nothing in return. That is why it's called 'trade.' You simply start buying foodstuffs from us at reduced and in exchange I am to give you free trade, no tariffs on steel, on textiles? What does that get me, other than a trade defecit? You want me to lift tariffs on steel? What tariffs are you going to lift on Canadian goods?" "Wheat and meat." Win reiterated the position simply. "Products that are bought every day, that are a 'necessity'. Certainly they are of far greater value given volume of sales than heavy equipment which lasts for years once bought and isn't as universally required as food." "Okay, fine," said MacIntyre. "No tariffs on Chinese steel. In exchange, you put no tariffs on Canadian coal and uranium." "That would be an absolutely reasonable request were it to include a mutual elimination of tariffs on manufactured electronics. Again, that way we will both benefit." The PM considered it. "Alright, mutual free trade on consumer electronics. But, that brings us to a concern I have. You really screwed over Dell and IBM a few years ago with patent violations, and the World Trade Organization has cited China for turning a blind eye to continued patent violation by certain companies in your country. I reserve the right to withdraw from a consumer electronic free trade pact if the WTO cites you again for violations." Win nodded. "There is no nation in the WTO that has not factually violated the WTO's charter in it's own interest. I would think it goes without saying any agreements should include mutual clauses allowing the parties to dissolve it." "Then we are agreed," said the PM. "The other item I wish to discuss is North Korea. Now whatever your reasons or motivations are for invading the country, the fact remains that like in all wars, noble or ignoble, people are suffering. As a country of peace and a believer in the prosperity of all men, Canada will offer humanitarian aid to North Korea." "Both your statements are excellent news, Prime Minister." Win smiled broadly as he clasped his hands together. "With regards to North Korea, I'm sure the North Korean government and people will be extremely receptive of such a generous offer. I can not speak on their behalf, but I will certainly recommend we support an affirmative response." "I'm sure," answered MacIntyre, trying to put on the most sincere smile he could muster. "Thank you for meeting with me, Mr. Ambassador." --- 1) Canada agrees to lift tariffs on Chinese steel, footwear and textiles 2) China agrees to lift tariffs on Canadian wheat, cattle, uranium and lumber 3) Canada and China agree to mutual free trade on electronics, with Canada reserving the right to withdraw if China is cited by the WTO for patent violations. 4) Canada will provided humanitarian food and medical aid to North Korea From pentaj2 at Scranton.edu Fri Sep 28 14:07:07 2007 From: pentaj2 at Scranton.edu (pentaj2 at Scranton.edu) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:07:07 -0400 Subject: [War] US: Minor Grumpiness Message-ID: "Minor Grumpiness" 18 March 2013 Various folks United States =================== State Department "frustrated" at Japanese actions in Beijing State Department sources describe opinion in Washington as "frustarted" at the Japanese actions in Beijing. "It really isn't helpful to go to Beijing while the PRC has 750 thousand troops in North Korea and focus on negotiating trade agreements and agreeing to put your own nationals in positions where they would be under Chinese control and legitimize Beijing's attempts at controlling North Korea," noted a State Department source. ... ==== Actions: 1. Oh, nothing much. Just expressing our frustration with Japan playing ball with China. From martellian at hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 20:14:43 2007 From: martellian at hotmail.com (Ian Martell) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:14:43 -0700 Subject: [War] Japan: "More Minor Grumpiness" Message-ID: "More Minor Grumpiness" 18 March 2013 Various folks Japan =================== State Department "frustrated" at Japanese actions in Beijing State Department sources describe opinion in Washington as "frustarted" at the Japanese actions in Beijing. "It really isn't helpful to go to Beijing while the PRC has 750 thousand troops in North Korea and focus on negotiating trade agreements and agreeing to put your own nationals in positions where they would be under Chinese control and legitimize Beijing's attempts at controlling North Korea," noted a State Department source. When asked to comment the a representative of the Japanese Foreign Ministry stated: "Japan stands by its policy of diplomatic engagement with China." When pressed further he added: "Americans should not be surprised by this turn in Japanese policy. With no support from Washington America's Asian allies have no choice but to deal directly with China." Pundits predict that this may spark a cooling of relations between the two countries. ==== Actions: 1. Reply to American grumbling. _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger? http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Fri Sep 28 21:37:02 2007 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:37:02 EDT Subject: [War] "While The World Is Grumpy" Message-ID: OOC: Since we're all on the grumpiness kick... "While The World Is Grumpy" Xinhua Official News Service People's Republic of China ================================= Beijing, CHINA (Xinhua Reporting): Amid harsh diplomatic rhetoric between the United States and Japanese foreign affairs officials, President Hong announced today an increased and emboldened initiative of good will towards the majority of the world's nations who routinely go unheard. The Ministry of State announced that following her next planned trip to visit Chinese peacekeepers and confer with the present Government in North Korea, President Hong will begin a rigorous pace of international meetings. On the agenda so far, and in apparent chronological order, are the American nations of Mexico, Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil, Cuba, and the African nations of South Africa, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Morrocco, and Egypt. Likewise, a multitude of nations have been offered invitations to engage in high-level talks with the People's government. Although the Ministry of State is not releasing the names of these governments invited until confirmation on acceptance or rejection can be achieved, associates close to the Ministry say the list includes nations of historic power and importance, as well as a plethora of smaller nations. This is on top of a 'Pan-Asian' conference also announced for Beijing this summer, where it is widely expected the main topic of discussion will be furthering cross-border alliances and partnerships. It was also noted by the Ministry of State that the list did include nations from North America and Europe, but neglected to mention specifically which countries. During the conference, President Hong received repeated questions regarding the apparent diplomatic dispute between the United States and Japan, as well as America's belligerent tone over the issue of continued Peacekeeping Operations in North Korea, at one point quipping that "It is important for the United States to speak it's mind regarding a successful Peacekeeping operation... less the world forget only America is allowed to conduct such operations, and even then only so that they fail." After a round of chuckles, she added "China has a vested interest in seeing to the safety and security of an independent, peaceful, responsible North Korea. The people of China, and their North Korean neighbors, should be instilled with pride and hope over what they have accomplished thus far, and what the future will bring." When prompted about why such an emphasis on some of the poorer nations on the world, the President replied that "The world has long ignored these nations, concerned solely with the benefit of a relative few. It's time that even the poor and weak be given a voice, particularly at a time like now where the force of globalization is bringing all nations together." She left off by asking for patience and understanding of all parties in North Korea. "North Korea's affairs must be it's own, as is the right of all free nations." ======================================================= ACTIONS 1. Use the advantage of everyone else being side-tracked by their own bickering to announce a major diplomatic initiative. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20070928/92d464ea/attachment.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 28 23:28:59 2007 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Daniel Garcia) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:28:59 -0400 Subject: [War] France: Grumpy Tidings Message-ID: <6FF0E07B-319F-41B7-9CA9-6FE0FB7A62CC@yahoo.com> "France: Grumpy Tidings" President Zo? Amp?re, French Republic March 18th, 2013 (OOC: A few notes. Firstly, I noticed that the timeline is only up to Mar 17 - Mar 31, 2013, which I took to be the time period of the previous posts, not the current ones. Thus my last post is wrongly dayed, and should be March 17th, 2013, and not April 1st, 2013. On a side note, I also see that we went from World Report Volume 2 to World Report Volume 4. Reminds me of Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail, "1, 2, 5!" "Three, sir." "3!" :) And secondly, this post has no actions, but is pure fluff inspired by the current bout of grumpiness in the international community...) "So let me get this straight," Zo? stated as though she were ready to break something. "Okay," said Alain Vauban, the Minister of Foreign Affairs. Zo?'s chief political advisor, Johann Arrau, sat there, investigating his hands while the President of the French Republic expressed a bit of incredulity and let off some stress. Zo? began pacing. "So the Beijing Conference ends, there is some agreement on economic issues and cooperation, some murmurs of increased military collaboration, and a little bit of talk about the North Korean issues. Nothing too spectacular. Certainly the progress on the North Korean issues was minute, and not affecting China's grip and near total control over the fate of that country. But I don't think anyone was realistically expecting much more. Indeed, the fact that the Japanese are being allowed in is more than I was expecting." Zo? stopped, and turned to the pair sitting at the table. Vauban was stoic, while Johann was showing the beginnings of a grin which could very well give birth to a belly laugh at any moment. Zo? ignored both men's responses. "Am I right so far," she asked. Vauban nodded, and Zo? began speaking and pacing again, somewhat frenetically this time. "So, nothing big. We use the specter of an East Asian economic community to push our own agenda within the Union, try to rattle a few chains to get some action. Nothing any Western politician doesn't do as a matter of course. And it's all no big deal." Zo? stopped here briefly, and inhaled. Johann began to grin widely at this, and sat back to enjoy President Amp?re's outburst. Zo? continued, beginning to gesture with her arms. "Then, the United States of America, in all it's infinite wisdom, in a cunning and devious move of diplomacy which will certainly make Beijing reconsider its course in North Korea and endear themselves to the Japanese government at a moment when Japan and China have begun to enter into a closer relationship which the United States might find useful in influencing China, now a best friend once removed, practically tells the Japanese that they are idiots who either don't know what their doing or have no concern for the status of North Korea and the threat that that nation has and could in the future pose to its own security and the security of the region. After all, it's best to be honest in diplomacy and try to make allies feel like they are idiots!" Zo? was gesturing energetically now, and more than once almost knocked something over. She also bumped her shin into a piece of furniture. This did not slow down either her speech or her pacing or gesturing in the least. And still she continued. "Then the Japanese, feeling hurt and yet infected by the same desire, nay, need to cause friction in the Pacific alliance that has seemingly possessed the Americans, complain that the United States has offered no support to her East Asian allies, leaving them with no choice but to absolutely jump into the arms of the Chinese government and abandon a half-century of good relations with America. I suppose they're also ready to go kowtowing to Beijing in severe regret for all the Chinese people they killed in and before the Second World War, which they have to date absolutely refused to do." "And," Zo? exclaimed, thrusting an arm into the air as if to accuse the heavens of a great injustice, apparently coming to the climax of her great venting, to the anticipation of Johann and the continued stoicism of Vauban. "And, to top it all off, the one party to all this which has managed to keep their cool and act intelligently is, of course, China, using what must assuredly be a diplomatically embarrassing episode and distraction between the United States and Japan to good effect, embarks on a massive diplomatic tour of the mid- range powers of the world, not only shifting the focus of diplomatic discourse away from North Korea, a subject which has potential to be most troublesome for them, to a subject which makes them look good, but also demonstrating a diplomatic finesse that the Most Powerful Country In The World apparently lacks at the moment. You would think that either President Williams or Prime Minister Sato, being elected officials of large, stable democracies with difficult, complicated political landscapes, would know, understand, and have perfected the ability to stay on message. But no, they decide to change to subject and attack each other - close allies and all! - while the proper focus of their attention runs to the candy store while it should be having a time out!" "Damn it all," Zo? yelled, finishing her diatribe, "and the Americans think that French people do odd things!" Johann began laughing at the end of this last statement, and only slightly at the limited humorous content therein. Though Zo? never acted this way in front of anyone but her closest friends and allies, it was something which had first concerned Johann, as her chief political advisor. But, when he learned that Zo? could be trusted to keep such outbursts private and that they helped her relieve her stress and anxiety, Johann relaxed and began to enjoy the diatribes. By this point, he found them just short of hilarious. It didn't hurt that they also gave him a peek at her honest thoughts on a matter. More than once, he had advised her to change strategy after an outburst. Zo? sat down, and sprawled out somewhat on a couch, appearing somewhat miffed at Johann's laughter, though in reality it made her feel better. She looked to Vauban, still sitting stoically. Yet, it was Vauban who was first to speak. "Well, I suppose the diplomatic news is somewhat full of grumpy tidings today," he said in a deep, serious voice. "Enough to make our President a bit grumpy," Johann said, standing to get her a glass of water. "Well, at least I don't show it publicly," Zo? grumped. "Only privately, then," Johann said, poking fun at the President one more time. Vauban stepped in. "Should we act? Perhaps consult privately with the Americans and Japanese," he suggested. Zo? shook her head. "No, not yet. Hopefully this nonsense will pass. If it looks like there's been a significant rift in US-Japanese relations, then perhaps we would step in and remind them that they have more to loose by splitting than by cooperating. But I imagine that good sense will prevail all on its own in this case, without any outside intervention. After all, they've been allies for a long time now," Zo? reasoned. The two men in the room wondered how much credence the President gave her own logic. Vauban then stood to leave. "If you'll excuse me, Madam President, there are issues I need to attend to," Vauban said properly. Zo? nodded, walking him to the door. When she returned, Johann was investigating his glass of water. "You should really keep some good liquor in here," Johann suggested. Zo? didn't drink unless absolutely necessary, and with good reason. "What, so that you can entertain me next time," Zo? said, winning points back from her advisor. Johann smiled. "Perhaps," Johann said. Zo? looked at the time, and suddenly realized it was late. "I think I should get some sleep," she said. Then, "After all, perhaps tomorrow either the world or I will be less grumpy. That would be nice." ACTIONS: 1) None. Just character development-ish stuff.