From john.penta at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 09:23:11 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:23:11 -0400 Subject: [War] US: Yeah, and? Message-ID: "Yeah, and?" Pres. John Williams USA =============== Well, the Chinese had temporarily seemed to gain a march. The Gang of Eight was meeting again, in 30 minutes. But before that, Williams was in his private office in the Residence, looking at a different wall. One that had two pictures on it, now. The feelings in his head were familiar. Guilt, An aching sadness. A self-doubt he tried not to show. A knock on the door. "Enter," Williams called brusquely. Secretary Abbot walked in...joined by Senator Obama? Curious. "Come to ask for my resignation?" Williams asked. "My responsibility, Hong's right there." "No. Your pistol, Ioannes." Abbot replied. "Now." "What pistol? You think the Secret Service would let me have one?" "The one you keep in your desk with the other locked stuff." "I'm not going to use it, dammit." "I'm not taking the chsnce, adelphos. Your sidearm. Weapon to me, ammunition to the Senator. You'll unload and clear it in front of us." "Will I ever get it back?" "Maybe. Ioannes, the black dog is bitin' hard right now, eh?" "Eh." "As I suspected." With that, Williams opened the first drawer to the right, first from the top, with a key from around his right wrist, under his shirt cuff. Drawer opened, out came a pistol, a , and an extra clip of ammunition, which was handed to Senator Obama. The pistol was pointed downwards, unloaded with a finger press, the ammunition handed to Obama, and the empty chamber cleared with another motion. Then, the gun was handed, grip-first, to Abbot, who placed it all in a case. "For the record, Mr. President, the Democratic party will not accept your resignation,so don't offer it." Obama noted. "We approved it too, remember." "Nor will your cabinet," Abbot added. "I know you feel guilty. Just like how we both did after ops that went bad. But you aren't the type to give up." Pause. "If you haven't, now would -" "Be a good time for him to take his meds? Yeah, I grabbed em from Kay," Obama noted. "When the fuck did you find out, and from who?" Williams asked suspiciously. "It's not hard to guess. Though, John...You should tell the country, sometime." That from Kay, who walked through the door and hugged her husband. "Not now, but sometime." "Why, so they and the world think me as incompetent as I feel, probably am?" "No, because you talking about it would make it okay to talk about, to get treatment for," noted John McCain, newly the Senate Republican leader after Ted Stevens resigned to face corruption charges in Alaska. "Enough about me. No more fucking Emo," Williams noted gruffly. "Kay, if you'll leave us so the Covert Ops Committee can meet?" "Go to hell, John." Kay could be direct sometimes. Why he loved her. Even when she made his life painful, he adored her honesty with him. They'd broken up 3 times while they were dating, but had gotten back together every time. "Not today." Glances showed....nobody else disagreed with her. As Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the group, including Hillary Clinton as Ranking Minority Member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, gathered, Williams poured coffee for everyone. "So. Options?" "Unless you want to start World War 3, a breakout isn't one of them," Abbot noted. "There may be merit to admitting it. Aggressively," Obama replied. "And nuke our image internationally?" Williams replied. "They tortured our guys," McCain noted. "You can tell - they were subtle, but you can tell by the pics." "They'll deny, deny, deny on that," Pelosi responded. "Just like Hanoi did," McCain replied. "The families?" "Notified as soon as we suspected capture," replied DNI Nick Manfredi. "They're vehemently *against* negotiations, surprisingly." "Thought: Admit it, very matter-of-factly. Yes, we did. Just like the Chinese supplied Vietnam, we intend to bleed them dry," Secstate Chris Hill offered. "And spark World War 3," Williams replied. "No, Eeyore. Not if we spin it right." "We've seen how bad I am at that, right?" "Only in your head. I'll do the spinning with assistance from Congress." "Give us our people, alive, or face a trade embargo. We can source from other Asian countries. India can pick up the slack," Nancy Pelosi suggested. "I'll head to Asia, try to convince others to join in," noted John McCain. "I'll handle Europe," Clinton offered. "I'll handle Eastern Europe," Abbot noted. "I'll take Latin America," noted Nancy Pelosi. "I'll do Africa," offered Chris Hill. "No trade in PRC goods, no sales to the PRC, no shipping on PRC ships or aircraft," Pelosi offered. "We'll let Commerce decide where they're most vulnerable." "Oh, also. Taiwan gets another billion in arms sales authorized, cash and carry basis," suggested Hillary Clinton. "And we'll have Congressional support for all that?" Williams asked. "Yeah. You agree to meet with Pastor Wilson?" asked Pelosi. "I already invited him for the 6th." Williams replied. "Then, deal. Anybody who speaks against it will run against the party." "Both parties," clarified McCain. "Ladies and gentlemen, a toast? To our captured comrades." Williams decided. "Our captured comrades." ---- Actions: 1. US Response: Yup, we did it. Just like you supplied the Viet Cong. 2. Leaders as above to travel the world to get support for trade embargo vs PRC, until they withdraw from North Korea and return our guys - ALIVE! 3. Taiwan, you had an arms request? Well, you got the money, we got the gunny. Cash and carry, please. All checks payable to the US Treasury, certified checks only. 4. John McCain to remind the world of the possibility of torture by the PRC. 5. What specifically gets embargoed to be decided by Commerce Dept. 6. Explain to the American people: There are some things more important than low prices. Principles and our people are among them. It'll not be fun, but this is what is sometimes required. From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 10:16:58 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:46:58 -0230 Subject: [War] Russia: "A Candid Letter" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804010716q6bc2408djc364587af95f63a2@mail.gmail.com> "A Candid Letter" President Leonid Nemerenko Russian Federation 5 March 2014 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- It was a rare thing for Nemerenko to be nervous. Annoyed, dismayed, even fretful. But this feeling that he had now was a genuine inkling of fear. Of uncertainty about the future and what was going to happen. Not just to Russia, but to the entire world. "And over what," he cursed quietly, resisting the urge to slam his fist onto his desk. Good leaders let themselves be guided by logic and pragmatism, not unbridled emotion. That was a key lesson his Sensei had taught him. Still, he could not help but feel an immense amount of frustration. Who honestly cared about North Korea? Maybe when they had been a rogue state with nuclear weapons, but now they were just another war-ravaged, dirt poor nowhere. No threat to Russia, no threat to world stability. Or at least that should have been the case. He cast an angry look at the phone on his desk. Nemerenko had picked it up twice with the intent of calling Williams and let that irrational pretender to the Oval Office have an earful. You never heard cursing until you heard Russian expletives. You made a fatal error Ivan, thought Nemerenko. And now you are too proud, stupid or both to give up and go home and are making the situation worse. An embargo on China! What utter idiocy! To simply cut off all trade with the second largest economy on Earth and expect it will make everything better! That lull after the fall of the Soviet Union truly had made America arrogant beyond measure. This was not some pissant Arab state that could be smacked around with some choice sanctions and a few F-16s buzzing airfields, this was a superpower! A *nuclear* superpower! A disruption in trade between China and America would cause severe economic loss for both, which would in turn affect Europe and Asia and in turn affect Russia. The Soviet Union had been a completely different economic bloc than the USA, but the Americans and Chinese operated within the same market system. This... lunacy was the start of a global recession. And if they were unlucky, it might turn into something even worse. And Russia had terrible luck. He began to type. --- To: President John Williams, USA From: President Leonid Nemerenko, Russian Federation [Encrypted, Moscow/Washington Protocol] Ivan, Please allow me to be candid in this letter. I write to appeal to you, one leader to another, to end this mad fiasco before the fallout has severe consequences for the people of America, Russia, Korea and the world as a whole. Let us be honest, this is not about freedom for North Korea. This is not about you protecting the world from some sort of new Soviet Empire, this isn't about democracy versus communism (if there is such a thing anymore). This is about fear. Fear and pride. You are afraid of China as a potential rival on the global stage, a nation that can openly defy the United States after nearly a decade of the world being your playground. And pride over the fact that your reckless scheme in North Korea has been uncovered and that you have been caught. Make no mistake, I believe the Chinese. Even before your own public admission of guilt, the GRU had confirmed the authenticity of the PRC's information. What you have done is a gross violation of international law and the sovereignty of China. You attempts to hold China to some sort of standard are foolish and hypocritical. America is responsible for just as many atrocities as China. Or Russia, for that matter. How many Iraqis did you butcher? A hundred thousand? A hundred and fifty thousand? I believe the death toll in Vietnam was over two million. And despite the adamant denials of your government I and every other world leader with even a second-rate intelligence agency knows about the incidents of torture and illegal detention your government carried out during that farce you called the 'War on Terror.' So much for democratic decency. You also gave Saddam Hussein the means to produce chemical weapons that he used to massacre hundreds of thousands of Iranians and Kurds, supported the Shah and his SAVAK killers, ignored human rights abuses by Israel (and post-Soviet Russia) that were just as inhumane as anything China has ever done. Ah, and let us not forget when America was funding the operations of Mr. Bin Laden against my countrymen. Not that I deny our own atrocities in Afghanistan, but so long as Bin Laden's murderous rhetoric was directed at Russia and not America you had no problem getting into bed with that madman. I'm sure you recall how that turned out in the end. I can sympathize with attempts to undermine a rival. This is politics, after all. But to so blindly pursue this confrontation with China while pretending that America is something that it is not, namely a nation that cares about the right, lives and decency of anyone other than its own citizens, is irrational and irresponsible. If this was just about power and balancing the scales against China, you would have cut your loses and moved on. Pursuing this is dangerous to global stability. China will not back down. This embargo and escalation of tension will only hurt the American economy and economy of the world. It is unfortunate that your men will be executed by the Chinese, but both you and they knew the risks when you (illegally) sent them to carry out this operation. Do not bore me with transparent outcrys of 'democracy' and 'human rights.' I will let your country's records speak for itself. And do attempt to dismiss my warnings as irrelevant based on the past atrocities of my predecessors. I am well aware of the crimes Russia stands guilty of and I have taken care to learn from that. Perhaps you should as well. The world tolerated the arrogant and irresponsible behavior of America in the post-9/11 world because your actions only affected smaller nations. Now you have angered a superpower with nuclear weapons and possesses a critical role in the world economy. Your CIA operation in North Korea was irresponsibly foolish and your embargo on China is as well. End this now, Ivan, before it becomes worse. And I can assure you, it will become much, much worse. With regards and hope, Leonid --- Actions: 1) Russia thinks the American embargo of China is a bad idea 2) Send a rather scathing private letter to President Williams -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080401/c78463e7/attachment-0001.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 10:35:34 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:05:34 -0230 Subject: [War] US: Yeah, and? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804010735l5564825cw9da1c88c5a1da411@mail.gmail.com> Wait a minute, Obama, Clinton... McCain.... agreeing.... What day is it today? On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:53 AM, John Penta wrote: > "Yeah, and?" > Pres. John Williams > USA > =============== > > > Well, the Chinese had temporarily seemed to gain a march. > > The Gang of Eight was meeting again, in 30 minutes. But before > that, Williams was in his private office in the Residence, looking at > a different wall. One that had two pictures on it, now. > > The feelings in his head were familiar. Guilt, An aching sadness. A > self-doubt he tried not to show. > > A knock on the door. > > "Enter," Williams called brusquely. > > Secretary Abbot walked in...joined by Senator Obama? Curious. > > "Come to ask for my resignation?" Williams asked. "My > responsibility, Hong's right there." > > "No. Your pistol, Ioannes." Abbot replied. "Now." > > "What pistol? You think the Secret Service would let me have one?" > > "The one you keep in your desk with the other locked stuff." > > "I'm not going to use it, dammit." > > "I'm not taking the chsnce, adelphos. Your sidearm. Weapon to me, > ammunition to the Senator. You'll unload and clear it in front of us." > > "Will I ever get it back?" > > "Maybe. Ioannes, the black dog is bitin' hard right now, eh?" > > "Eh." > > "As I suspected." > > With that, Williams opened the first drawer to the right, first > from the top, with a key from around his right wrist, under his shirt > cuff. Drawer opened, out came a pistol, a , and an extra clip of > ammunition, which was handed to Senator Obama. The pistol was pointed > downwards, unloaded with a finger press, the ammunition handed to > Obama, and the empty chamber cleared with another motion. Then, the > gun was handed, grip-first, to Abbot, who placed it all in a case. > > "For the record, Mr. President, the Democratic party will not > accept your resignation,so don't offer it." Obama noted. "We approved > it too, remember." > > "Nor will your cabinet," Abbot added. "I know you feel guilty. > Just like how we both did after ops that went bad. But you aren't the > type to give up." Pause. "If you haven't, now would -" > > "Be a good time for him to take his meds? Yeah, I grabbed em > from Kay," Obama noted. > > "When the fuck did you find out, and from who?" Williams asked > suspiciously. > > "It's not hard to guess. Though, John...You should tell the > country, sometime." That from Kay, who walked through the door and > hugged her husband. "Not now, but sometime." > > "Why, so they and the world think me as incompetent as I feel, > probably am?" > > "No, because you talking about it would make it okay to talk > about, to get treatment for," noted John McCain, newly the Senate > Republican leader after Ted Stevens resigned to face corruption > charges in Alaska. > > "Enough about me. No more fucking Emo," Williams noted gruffly. > "Kay, if you'll leave us so the Covert Ops Committee can meet?" > > "Go to hell, John." Kay could be direct sometimes. Why he loved > her. Even when she made his life painful, he adored her honesty with > him. They'd broken up 3 times while they were dating, but had gotten > back together every time. "Not today." > > Glances showed....nobody else disagreed with her. > > As Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the group, including Hillary > Clinton as Ranking Minority Member of the Senate Armed Services > Committee, gathered, Williams poured coffee for everyone. "So. > Options?" > > "Unless you want to start World War 3, a breakout isn't one of > them," Abbot noted. > > "There may be merit to admitting it. Aggressively," Obama replied. > > "And nuke our image internationally?" Williams replied. > > "They tortured our guys," McCain noted. "You can tell - they > were subtle, but you can tell by the pics." > > "They'll deny, deny, deny on that," Pelosi responded. > > "Just like Hanoi did," McCain replied. "The families?" > > "Notified as soon as we suspected capture," replied DNI Nick > Manfredi. "They're vehemently *against* negotiations, surprisingly." > > "Thought: Admit it, very matter-of-factly. Yes, we did. Just > like the Chinese supplied Vietnam, we intend to bleed them dry," > Secstate Chris Hill offered. > > "And spark World War 3," Williams replied. > > "No, Eeyore. Not if we spin it right." > > "We've seen how bad I am at that, right?" > > "Only in your head. I'll do the spinning with assistance from > Congress." > > "Give us our people, alive, or face a trade embargo. We can > source from other Asian countries. India can pick up the slack," Nancy > Pelosi suggested. > > "I'll head to Asia, try to convince others to join in," > noted John McCain. > > "I'll handle Europe," Clinton offered. > > "I'll handle Eastern Europe," Abbot noted. > > "I'll take Latin America," noted Nancy Pelosi. > > "I'll do Africa," offered Chris Hill. > > "No trade in PRC goods, no sales to the PRC, no shipping on > PRC ships or aircraft," Pelosi offered. "We'll let Commerce decide > where they're most vulnerable." > > "Oh, also. Taiwan gets another billion in arms sales > authorized, cash and carry basis," suggested Hillary Clinton. > > "And we'll have Congressional support for all that?" Williams > asked. > > "Yeah. You agree to meet with Pastor Wilson?" asked Pelosi. > > "I already invited him for the 6th." Williams replied. > > "Then, deal. Anybody who speaks against it will run > against the party." > > "Both parties," clarified McCain. > > "Ladies and gentlemen, a toast? To our captured > comrades." Williams decided. > > "Our captured comrades." > ---- > Actions: > 1. US Response: Yup, we did it. Just like you supplied the Viet Cong. > 2. Leaders as above to travel the world to get support for trade > embargo vs PRC, until they withdraw from North Korea and return our > guys - ALIVE! > 3. Taiwan, you had an arms request? Well, you got the money, we got > the gunny. Cash and carry, please. All checks payable to the US > Treasury, certified checks only. > 4. John McCain to remind the world of the possibility of torture by the > PRC. > 5. What specifically gets embargoed to be decided by Commerce Dept. > 6. Explain to the American people: There are some things more > important than low prices. Principles and our people are among them. > It'll not be fun, but this is what is sometimes required. > > _______________________________________________ > War mailing list > War at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080401/d0d94f21/attachment.html From vampi.digitalwytch at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 10:57:44 2008 From: vampi.digitalwytch at gmail.com (Vampi Digitalwytch) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:57:44 -0600 Subject: [War] US: Yeah, and? In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804010735l5564825cw9da1c88c5a1da411@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804010735l5564825cw9da1c88c5a1da411@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I was actually wagering on seeing the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse heading down San Mateo on my way in to work. 2008/4/1 Michael Downey : > Wait a minute, Obama, Clinton... McCain.... agreeing.... > > What day is it today? > > -- --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. From john.penta at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 11:46:52 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:46:52 -0400 Subject: [War] US: Yeah, and? In-Reply-To: References: <6b6ab8a70804010735l5564825cw9da1c88c5a1da411@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Only today, and only 6 years in the future, could I pull that off.:) John On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Vampi Digitalwytch wrote: > I was actually wagering on seeing the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse > heading down San Mateo on my way in to work. > > 2008/4/1 Michael Downey : > > Wait a minute, Obama, Clinton... McCain.... agreeing.... > > > > What day is it today? > > > > > > -- > --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there > ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. > > > _______________________________________________ > War mailing list > War at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > From john.penta at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 14:55:44 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:55:44 -0400 Subject: [War] US: "Tell me your troubles" Message-ID: "Tell me your troubles" 4 March 2014 Pres. John Williams USA ================ As they walked towards the press for the obligatory photo op, Williams looked apologetically towards Rev. Joshua Wilson, pastor of the First Baptist Church, and the other representatives of the riot-hit areas in Detroit. "I hate to subject people to these things," Williams noted. "Cardinal Flores had -told- me you were a fish out of water," noted Rob "Dogbone" Watson, a heavily-tattooed ex-ganger, cause of Secret Service heart attacks....and a respectable community leader since getting out of prison 15 years ago. "Most pols love these." "I am not most politicians, sir," Williams replied with a grin. Later, they were in the Oval Office, and Williams was in a chair, Wilson, Watson, and the others in chairs of their choice. "Before you aim and fire, let me lay out something. There's only so much I, at the federal level, can do. You might not like that, but federalism protects you at all levels; the trade-off is that you don't get to have the federal government tell Michigan, or Detroit, what to do on a day-to-day basis, even when you want us to. Or when *we* want to. But within that limit, and I'll tell you when it applies, you have an open set of ears. Tell me your troubles. Vent. But let's try to work together." And so they did. Long, vehement venting, with Williams defending his actions with equal vigor. Polite, yet candid. Frank, yet friendly. And all behind closed doors. Exactly how a good venting should be. --- Actions: 1. Williams....listens. Come and vent, Detroit. No promises, but he does take copious notes. 2. Defend welfare policy: I'm not an asshole, there's good intentions here. 3. Ask Detroit community reps to help smack China for sticking its nose in American "family issues". We may argue, but this ain't for China to comment on! Shaddap, you!:P From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Tue Apr 1 21:46:22 2008 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:46:22 EDT Subject: [War] China: "The Trial" Message-ID: OOC: This is set a few days after John's last post, the intent being to remind the US China does not accept threats. "The Trial" President Xia Hong The People's Republic of China March 8, 2014 =================================== (The Executive Mansion) All it had taken was one phone call from Xia's desk to seal the fate of the two men abandoned by their home government. The call had been made at 2:30 PM local time, and lasted all of 45 seconds. They would live. The Minister of Justice had reported the jury's findings as he was obliged. The Grand Jury had given the indictment... the trial lasted a couple of days as the evidence was presented, a jury selected, and a verdict reach. They had been found guilty on all charges despite what the ICJ specialists had determined was a fair and rigorous defense by well trained legal professionals. Their evidence after all was 'that' strong. It hadn't been an easy decision to reach. The Hardliners had backed her the entire way in seeking the death penalty, and to hear of her compassionate move now could very much cause them to yap noisily before they ran for their respective rocks again. Part of her, the old soldier, wanted to see them pay for the murder of Chinese soldiers likely caused by their presence... and their cowardice in not bearing a uniform and standing to fight. But that was overshadowed by the pragmatic leader, and the mother, who saw their faces and couldn't help but think of her own son. It was revolting really... the Americans 'should' have been supporting them, not undermining them. Williams, she decided, was an ass. On the Television behind her the Xinhua 'breaking news' flash played, declaring that President Hong in "a gracious show of compassion for the families" of the captured men, commuted their sentence to life imprisonment. In reality, as soon as either the North Korean insurgency was defeated and power returned to it's rightful government, or it so suited China, the two men would be pardoned and released. Per the Japanese request, she opened up to the IRC the medical centers established in North Korea, and ordered the Ministry of Health to cooperate. It was rare when China could boast being morally superior to the US... after all had they been in America, and it was her spies who were captured, they very likely could have been put to death. Ultimately, it was a situation unfair to everyone, and Xia knew this. Already her government was countering allegations of torture by replying that the IRC had full access to the prisoners and had determined they were being treated humanely... another bitch slap to the American propaganda machine. While the Chinese markets dipped sharply on the news of a possible economic sanction, American markets came within a hairsbreadth of crashing... and international support from those who had opted to speak so far clearly followed China's way of thinking. She had fought the 800 pound global Gorilla, and had thoroughly kicked his hairy ass. It should have been a time for celebration, but the North Korean situation was really just one aspect of China's problems. On the other side of Beijing's parallel was Tibet. Although the riots had calmed some now, the fact that the very agencies tasked by her to carry out her orders had failed to comply irritated her to no end. The last report from the MoJ said 102 officers and 89 soldiers were under investigation. Of this, they could already substantiate claims for 76 individuals. 30 of those had cases pending already, and the rest would be filed by week's end. She would likely see to it that this was discretely forgotten, the officers punished with five to ten years in jail, longer if they killed someone, and deprived of their pensions and benefits. God help them if they continued the unnecessarily harsh tactics, however. She poured herself a glass of upscale Vodka, courtesy of the Russians. She certainly could use it, and now understood why so many Russian Presidents had drinking issues... dealing with the Americans made you drink. Especially as they were 'now' trying to escolate things by arming the Taiwanese, going embargo, and outright slander. There was a simple, one line letter sent to the Department of State under diplomatic courier from her desk intended to be delivered straight to Williams. It read simply "Remember this." ========================================== Actions 1. The lives of the two American CIA operatives captured in North Korea will be spared, irregardless of America's non-compliance. China again will be taking the high-road. 2. Another PR bitch slap to America, the IRC says we're not torturing. Is this another WMDs in Iraq thing? 3. Chinese Military clear to conduct readiness drills. Increase international naval patrols, particularly around Taiwan, but care is to be taken. Remind the world that despite China's moves of peace, the United States continues to war monger. Do you want to stand idly by while the US leads you to the path of Armageddon, or will you do the responsible thing and remain neutral... or better yet, support us? 4. Military hardware sales authorized to Cuba and Venezuela. Free-trade overtures to be made to the European Union, all African and American nations (the US included for formality's sake), and the Middle East. Encourage Middle Eastern powers to cut the oil line to the US hard, sell to China instead. 5. Remind the Americans China controls untold billions in American currency. Screwing with us economically will guarantee the end of 'Pax Americana'. 6. Clear and hard message to the Americans. We do not tolerate terrorism, not from insurgents, not from nations. You continue down the path of making demands as if you had control of the situation, you do so at your own peril. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080401/ef9f1026/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 23:10:20 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 23:10:20 -0400 Subject: [War] US: An explanation Message-ID: "An Explanation" 5 March 2014 Pres. John Williams USA =============== Breathe in, breathe out. *Relax. You've done this...A handful of times before.* *Inner voice, you are Not Helping.* "Ioannes, your mind is arguing with itself again, isn't it?" Piper asked. "Your face always looks so haunted when that happens." "Yes, and I write this speech over and over again and it is not working." "Relax, breathe, and channel your predecessors. Fortunately for you, they suck less than most of mine." A chuckle at that. "See? You can laugh at least." "Yeah, but 2 good men may well be dead by now because of me." "Or they'd have died in some random, petty, pathetic way. Stop blaming yourself, Wolf. Unworthy of you, and unbecoming." "Point on their deaths." "If they're dead. If." "Shut up and help me write the damn speech." --- <2 hours later> Makeup on, Lights shining in his eyes... "Guys, seriously. Must the light shine straight in my eyes?" Presidential complaint addressed. Check on the TV. Mmmhm. All is green. "My fellow Americans, and people of the world," Williams said with a grave face. "I speak to you tonight about the exposure of a covert operation of this government on the Korean Peninsula, and the capture of two American personnel in connection with this operation. "First, I wish to speak to the purposes and intents of this operation and its scope. Second, I wish to speak as to recent events. "Firstly: This operation was planned and conducted on a limited basis. "The objectives were as follows: "One: Find and make contact with Korean partisan groups. "Two: If found, insert intelligence operatives to supply medical supplies and communications gear. No weapons, period. "Three: Encourage the Korean partisan groups to form a united political force. "These objectives, until the capture of our personnel under circumstances still to be investigated, were, for the most part, going quite well." Point three was like herding cats on meth, but did that need to be said publicly? No, not really, Williams had decided. "No involvement of American military forces was at any time planned or ordered, or would ever be. Such was my decision in coordination with the Congressional leadership at the time we began our assistance, and that would not have changed. The fight for the Korean peninsula is Koreans' to fight, was Koreans' to fight, and always will be primarily Koreans' to fight; If they didn't want a free government, not undrr Chinese influence, nothing we could do to convince them would. If they didn't want a united Korea under a democratic government, we could never convince them they did. "Second, I would like to address recent events. "Bluntly, I place no trust in Chinese justice. All too often, Chinese activists have themselves demonstrated that, while China's justice system is free and fair, or at least not that bad in regular cases, it is all too often easily influenced by political considerations, to an extent which, in nations with more established justice systems, would be utterly unacceptable. In the United States, to influence cases as is generally regular in China would get any executive official impeached - if not ripped limb from limb by an angry mob. "This case is political to the utmost. Thus, responsibility for its outcome rests with President Hong. If they live, I want them home, transferred to American soil within 48 hours. If they die, then the blood will be on her hands. "Now, to address the accusations of torture: It doesn't look to me as though our personnel were tortured. However, should we ever find out that they may have been, physically or mentally...Then, the People's Republic of China will be held responsible. "To address the sanctions controversy: As President, I reserve the right to declare sanctions. In this case, I will exercise my discretion based on the following factors: "One: have our personnel been returned alive, unharmed, and in the same health in which we sent them away within five days? "Two: Within thirty days, have all Chinese forces and persons withdrawn from Korea - and have free elections, monitored by the UN and the OSCE, been scheduled for not later than one year hence? "If those two points are met, then sanctions will not be imposed. Period. "My fellow Americans, people of the world. "In times of tension, it seems at times as though tension is the order of things, particularly between major powers. "I assure you...this time of tension, too, shall pass." --- Actions: 1. Speech to the planet. 2. No, I don't think China tortured anybody. 3. Dun mean I believe Hong though. 4. Appeal for support. 5. Explain objectives in Korea. 6. Player needs more naps! From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 09:57:08 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:27:08 -0230 Subject: [War] Russia: "An Appeal to China" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804020657w1fe2bc8fv4379bc6c8f34e47@mail.gmail.com> "An Appeal to China" President Leonid Nemerenko Russian Federation 6 March 2014 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To: President Xia Hong, People's Republic of China From: President Nemerenko, Russian Federation [Open Letter] --- President Hong, Let me begin by saying that I find the actions of certain units within the PLA peacekeeping force in North Korea to be highly unacceptable. My government has come to expect a high level of professionalism within the Chinese military and the inhumane acts of a minority of your soldiers towards the civilians of North Korea very disconcerting. I trust your government is sincere in the punitive steps it has begun. The recent troubles between your country and the United States of America are very troubling. It had been my intent to remain neutral but recent actions undertaken by the American government has forced me to step in. The operations undertaken by the CIA, verified by the GRU and SVR to be genuine thanks to the evidence you supplied, is a gross violation of national sovereignty and a complete violation of international law. I am sure you know as well as I do that the Americans would be absolutely furious if they had caught SVR or MSS operatives giving aid to insurgents in Iraq. Clearly I condemn their actions. Worse still, this ill-planned embargo that President Williams had threatened your country with will clearly destabilize the global economy. If all of the nations on earth are suffering through a recession, I fail to see how it will help the already-desperate economic situation in North Korea. So clearly my concern is great. I do not want this conflict to endanger the stability of the Far East or the world. For that reason I would like to inquire if you would be interested in attending a summit I wish to hold in Vladivostok, with the leaders of America, Japan, and if they will attend South Korea. You are the first foreign leader I have asked and I do not have commitments from President Williams, Myung-bak or Prime Minister Sato. Lastly, while the regrettable security situation in North Korea has force me to withdraw our aid workers, the flow of food and medical aid from Russia to the IRC in North Korea will continue. With Regards, Leonid Nemerenko, President of Russia --- Actions: 1) Give China a light slap on the wrists over PLA actions towards North Korea civilians so Russia doesn't seem only concerned about the world economy 2) Indicate that Russia is not pleased with the American threats of an embargo or the gross violation of the principle of sovereignty 3) Ask if President Hong would be interested in a Russia-chaired summit between Japan, America and China in Vladivostok 4) While Russia will no longer have aid workers on the ground, it will continue to send food and medical aid -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080402/07f7eb2d/attachment-0001.html From john.penta at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 10:11:41 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:11:41 -0400 Subject: [War] US: We'll take it Message-ID: "We'll take it" 9 March 2014 Pres. John Williams USA =============== (OOC: A quick post. A really quick post. Why? Cuz our fridge just broke and we're doing a run to the backup fridge.) Perhaps not meant by the Chinese, but what the hell. Williams decided...Take the free-trade offer. Offer a free-trade pact to the entire Pacific Rim in return. But there was a catch. Williams would start very, very high. If Hong was sincere, she'd bargain him down, he figured. However... "Presidente Calderon? Presidente Williams. Hola...." If he could get Central America to lock arms with him, could they resist China? --- Actions: 1. Take Hong's free-trade offer....And offer a free-trade area to the whole PacRim. 2. If Hong's sincere, she'll bargain him down from harsh terms. If not, well. 3. Try to get Central America to join the US side in the trade talks. 4. Offer to everybody but China: We'll hold the WTO suit in abeyance...if you support us against them. From pbuck11 at aol.com Fri Apr 4 11:08:29 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:08:29 -0600 Subject: [War] NEWS FLASH: US-China War of words Message-ID: <47F6446D.8010508@aol.com> The latest conflicts beteween the war of words beteween the US and China has resulted in an upswing in insanity. The Chinese revelations in the UN resulted in Venezuela introducing a resolution in the UN Security Council calling for an international condemnation of the United States, Which resulted in the UK delegation filing a protest against several 'dissapearances' in the Venezuelan government. The news cycle was live with arguments and at one point the O'Riley Factor started to resemble Geraldo when Cynthia Mckinney threw a chair at Ann Coulter which nearly started a brawl and required Richard Marcinko to break the two of them up. The internet blogs were alive with argument, on popular news site fark.com a poster named bob ondeeznutz compared Wiliams' actions to Stalin and the proxy wars. A poster named bigpimpinwillie argued that every country had done proxy wars, at that point the thread devolved in to cat macros, accusations of internet toughguying, pictures of Jessica Alba, Salma Hayak, and other female celebs, and links to a video of Rick Astley singing Never gonna give you up. Protests on both sides sprung up nearly overnight, Some calling for Williams to resign, some calling for the use of nukes on China until the prisoners are returned. In China hardliners are upset the president didn't execute them and there have been scattered protest, Student groups are more upset at the threatened embargo which has been met with skeptical but lukewarm support in the United States. Unions however strongly support the boycott and are calling for it to continue, seeing the increased jobs that should be coming their way. Actions: 1) Fox news hires a bouncer for The Factor, O'Riley has a broken nose. 2) Basic how things look on the media. From martellian at hotmail.com Fri Apr 4 13:01:10 2008 From: martellian at hotmail.com (Ian) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:01:10 -0700 Subject: [War] Japan: Just Say No Message-ID: "Just Say No" Prime Minister Shunchi Sato Japan 10 March 2014 ------------------------------------ Minister Hashimoto and Minister Jonouchi appeared in the PM's office in the Diet building promptly after the latest session. Sato was already there sitting with his tie undone shoes off and a scotch in his hand. He waved them in like the old friends (and occasional rivals) they were. They smiled as they walked in and set down their attache cases and Hashimoto went to the sideboard to pour them both some scotch. "Long session," the Finance minister commented as he returned with the drinks. Sato nodded. "Yes," he said. While in Japan the questions asked by the opposition at question period were published and listed before they were asked, it could still be grueling spitting out prepared answers time and time again. "But it's over." "So where do we stand with the American's offer?" he asked. Hashimoto frowned. "Well as I said when you first asked the department of finance to look into it, there may be a slight net benefit to some industries by accepting an American free trade agreement but we will see a world wide recession as a result of a successful sactioning of Chinese trade, in addition, our food prices will soar." Sato nodded. No surprises there. "Likely diplomatic ramifications?" he asked Jonouchi. "Hard to say, Williams acts somewhat erratically and so to does his government," he replied. "However I belive it is safe to say we will see a cooling of relations." Sato nodded. "America's favorite tune: you're either with us or against us." Jonouchi nodded. "Yes," he said. "The Cabinet is fully behind refusing the Americans, and the majority of the media have also pointed out the flaws in the President's plan." He knew he'd take a little flak from the industries which would have benefitted with the free trade agreement and the end to this ridiculous law suit, but he'd live with it, he wouldn't be much of a leader if he embraced ecconomic ruin for the sake of little less criticism. "Then we will let Senator McCain know when he arrives that we regretfully cannot accept the US's offer," Sato said. Jonouchi nodded. "And our Southeast Asian allies?" he asked. "Well most of them can count so I do not think they will have a problem in determining what will happen if they boycott China, but if they are dithering on the subject our decision will bolster their confidence. But if you want to send them quiet word of our intentions, then go ahead, but nothing public until we tell the US ourselves, we owe our allies that much." Jonouchi nodded. "What about the UN?" asked Hashimoto. "Venezuela's resolution?" asked Jonouchi. "It's going to fail." Sato agreed. "Yes, we are going to vote no, and be done with it." The other ministers nodded, looking relieved. "Anything else?" the Prime Minister asked. The men shook their heads. "Then let's take a break," Sato said. "The Senator isn't due to arrive for a few hours." Actions: 1. Say no to the US sanctions, politely, but firmly. It's bad for the world's ecconomy. 2. Quietly let our Asian allies know what we're doing so they feel more comfortable saying no. (Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and the Phillipines) 3. Vote no on the resolution to condem the US. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He had trouble seeing genuine morality in the actions of either America or China, but the Chinese were definitely the less reckless of the two and decisively winning the PR war. Japan, America's closest regional ally, had voiced opposition to the embargo. Russia.... well, Nemerenko's letter to Williams had probably given the White House a clear enough picture of where Russia stood. Adding to the fact that the Kremlin had refused to give Julius Abbot an audience on his Eastern European tour to promote this half-baked scheme eliminated any public doubts as to where Russia stood. "You never received a reply from Williams," noted Denemetov. "I warned you that the wording was far too harsh. American Presidents do not like to be brought down of their high horse. Assailing him so harshly when his government in backed into a corner might have cost us their attention." Nemerenko shrugged. He had badly overestimated the competence of his American counterpart and was actually rather cross with Williams for his incompetence. If you were going to play games like the ones the CIA had in China, you had to prepare to get caught. Laws had been broken and China was within its rights to detain and prosecute the two operatives. Had they been caught in Russia the situation would have been much more direct; an SVR agent would have walked into the room after the men had been sufficiently interrogated for information and promptly blow both their brains out with a Makarov. No trial, no spectacle. Just quick and clean spy justice. The corpses would have been returned to Langley through back channels. "He's desperate," observed Oleg Tretiak, the new Russian Prime Minister since Koretsky had retired a few months ago. "The erratic behaviour of his government and his person all point to extreme panic." "Which is tremendously dangerous," continued Denemetov. "What if the Americans threaten military action? What then?" "Congress is supporting Williams because they want to look like they care about the lives of the two captured CIA agents," said Nemerenko. "And as economic woes become worse in America and the population becomes more upset, their support for him will fade. They will not even consider war as an option." Indeed, the very threat of an embargo had caused markets across the world to dip. It was an unforgivably stupid mistake on Williams' part. If you wanted to ween yourself of China's cheaps goods, this was totally not the way to do it. "You said we received word back from China, Irena?" "Yes. Hong has agreed to attend a summit at Vladivostok provided an invitation is also extended to the North Korean government." That got a smirk from Nemerenko. It was a logical step. Hong would have to drag along some puppet to spew China's orders to make at least the appearance of democracy in the PRC's new client state. It was a good strategy, one Russia had used quite often, and Nemerenko didn't find the idea morally offensive in the slightest. "Of course we'll give the North Korean government an invitation. Now that China has agreed, the first major hurdle has been overcome. Have the Foreign Ministry begin making preparations and send the relevant invitation to the remaining states." "If Williams refuses to attend?" asked Tretiak. "He can't afford not to," said Nemerenko. Or at least that's what the Russian President hoped. "Especially if I can convince Japan to attend as well. Refusing to sit down and settle this in a civilized manner will only shift world opinion even further in China's favor. The time has long passed when the United States can just ignore the desires of the international community." --- Actions: 1) The Kremlin refuses to see Secretary Abbot on his Eastern European tour to get support for the American embargo. 2) Russia is publicly against the embargo. 3) Extend invitation to Japan, South Korea, North Korea and the United States to attend a summit in Vladivostok after Hong agrees to attend in a private communication that has been sent to Russia. 4) The reckless and erratic behavior of the American government is beginning to noticeably anger the Kremlin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"No word on the US or South Korea." Sato leaned back, that was interesting, without either of them this was going to be nothing more than what was the American word? Bitching session and if attended by Japan would only widen the gulf between the mad superpower and the land of the rising sun. "Call our Ambassadors in Seoul and Washington, see if they can discover the American's and the South Korean's intent. I don't want to be the only one there representing 'our side'; or we will end up branded as on 'their side'." Jonouchi made an agreeing noise. "I think we should also speak to Moscow and let them know our position and our willingness to help resolve this matter in any way possible." Snorting a laugh Sato replied. "Yes of course, but what an odd world we live in, Japan and Russia are trying to hold the world togeather, while China speaks of democracy and justice and the US pushes the world to the brink of disaster. In the old days I'd have to write a haiku." Jonouchi laughed. "The winds of spring blow cold. A rain of steel threatens us. All the world is ill." "Very good," Sato joked. "Lets be glad you are a good minister, you'd make a horrible poet." They shared a laugh despite the fact the joke was not that funny nor was their situation. They had been doing that more often, laughing, Sato figured it was what the Samurai had called, living under the sword, accepting one's situation, good or bad, and enjoying both. "Call the Cabinet," he instructed the Foreign Minister. "Anyone who is free can come to the Kantei for drinks, we need to laugh Jonouchi-kun, our friends and enemies aren't but we need to." Jonouchi chuckled. "Of course," he said and they hung up and got ready to relax. Actions: 1. Check on the US and South Korean's see that they are attending the summit. 2. Given John's ooc post, Japan will attend. 3. Contact the Russians and relay, yeah, we're scared too, lets work togeather in navigating this mess. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080404/55f161c8/attachment-0001.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 07:11:41 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:41:41 -0230 Subject: [War] Russia: "Keeping the Peace" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804050411v3b46e9acw25a0e4d4a9868869@mail.gmail.com> "Keeping the Peace" President Nemerenko, Sergeant Taminova, Russian Federation 9 March 2014 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Despite it still being early March the weather was fairly pleasant in Sukhumi, regional capital of the breakaway Georgian province of Abkhazia. Sergeant Taminova attributed it to the city's South Caucasus location, proximity to the Black Sea and global warming. Russian, Japanese and EU soldiers with bored looks on their faces hung out by APCs under a lazy orange sun, smoking their issued cigarettes and exchanging bootleg Dutch porn for bootleg Jap hentai. Tamin hadn't been too pleased when his unit, the 76th Motor Rifle Regiment out of the 205th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade, had been pulled out of training with the Ukrainians to be assigned PK duty here in Abkhazia. He was looking forward to some leave, use some of the money he'd saved thanks to his greatly-increased NCOs pay to rent a room and watch the Olympics in Sochi. Now he was stuck in some crummy little renegade state down near the ass of the Caucasus. Even those assholes in the 19th MRD would get to see some of the Olympics with their unit assigned to Sochi for security duty. *Security duty*. He snorted and took another drag off his cigarette. The first few days had been intense once Moscow had decided that meddling in the dispute between Georgia and Abkhazia really wasn't worth the effort and pretty much blackmailed the two sides and sitting down and talking. Most Abkhazians were 'Russians of convenience,' clinging to their dual citizenship not out of loyalty to Mother Russia but to use it as leverage to gain their eventual independence. When that crutch had evaporated and the Abkhazians realized they'd have to actually solve their own problems like adults, they hadn't been too pleased with the newly-arrived 76th MR Regiment. Garbage, stones, bags of cow feces. One idiot had even tried to toss a Molotov Cocktail at a passing BMP but just gotten himself burned to death when the bottle exploded in his hand. They'd all had a good laugh at that. When the Abkhazians realized the men of the 76th weren't the Russian Army troops they were used to, dedovshchina morons drunk from hitting their vodka ration to hard, the yokels had begun to smarten up a bit. And when EU troops started moving in and later the Japs, it had become quite clear to the population that things were quite different now. Oh, there was still the odd incident of violence but given that Abkhazia exited as a de facto independent state purely on the good grace of the Federation, incidents were now few and far between. The occasional Havoc attack helicopter buzzing overhead helped too. "Comrade Sergeant," said Lieutenant Kaminev, approaching Taminova. The Sergeant gave his CO a curt nod but didn't salute, as was standard practice when you were in your BDUs. "I take it all goes well?" "Da, Comrade Lieutenant," replied Taminova. "Taxi drivers flipping us the bird as they go by and dirty looks from the local cops are about the worst problems we've had today." "Good. I wanted you to tell your men-" Kaminev didn't get a chance to finish his sentence. All Taminova heard was a loud 'crack' and then the side of the LT's head exploded in a spray of red mist that stained Taminova's face and his uniform. "SNIPER!" Taminova had known what had happened the moment Kaminev had gone down. "To the East! To the East!" He shouted over his radio even as he ran for cover. All around him PK soliders were doing the same while civilians screamed in terror and raced off in every direction. Taminova heard more and more gunshots, that hideous crack and echo, but didn't see or hear anyone else get shot. That meant the sniper was an amateur; a trained marksman could take down targets even in the mad confusion the market Sukhumi market square had become. Finding (he hoped) safety behind a low cement wall, Taminova tried to assess the situation. Barking over his radio, he got a report back that no other PK soldiers had been killed but two civilians had been shot, probably dead. * Shit*. This was bad. Snipers, even bad ones, could make life miserable for whole companies of troops for hours and hours on end. They couldn't safely search the area without getting shot at. The only effective way to deal with a sniper was either another sniper or to just bomb the whole area. Option one seemed better than option two. "Sergeant Taminova?" crackled a voice over his radio. The speaker's grasp of Russian was pretty good, tinted by what Taminova suspected was an English accent which probably meant it was one of the Royal Marines. "This is Sergeant Doyle here. I'm about six hundred meters West of your position. I think I've got you in my sites, tap your rifle on the ground if it is." Taminova tapped the butt of his AEK on the hard asphalt and heard a grunt of acknowledgment over the radio. "Jolly good. Right, I think our sniper is in that apartment building just East of you, about a hundred meters. Thing is, I don't know what window the bugger is snipping from. I need you to get up and run across the street so he'll come forward more to take his shot. Then I'll get him." What? Taminova made a sour expression, hoping that Limey jackass was still watching. Just run out as bait in the hopes the Royal Marine could see the sniper to counter-snipe him, all in the hope that Taminova wouldn't get shot first. *Shit*. Then again, what choice did Taminova have? Royal Marines were like VDV, supposed to be very good at what they did. "One the count of three," said Taminova over his radio. "One.... two.... THREE!" Leaping over the wall, he ran down the axis of the market square as fast as he could. Like most Russians, the Sergeant was not a religious man. But if there was a God, Taminova hoped he was watching. He feet hitting the ground like artillery shells as he ran, Taminova couldn't help but wince fearfully as another loud crack echoed through the air. It was quieter, more distant. The Limey, it must have beem. "I got him," came the voice over his radio. Taminova breathed a heavy sigh of relief. --- "A sniper attack," said Nemerenko, reading over the report. The incident had killed three people, one Russian Army officer and two Abkhazian civilians, plus the sniper himself. "The man was an Abkhazian ultra nationalist," said Yevgeni, Nemerenko's chief of staff. "Oleg Ushkavil. Did a stint with the Redy Army in Afghanistan but not actually trained as a sniper. Was part of a Abkhazian militia group during the Georgian civil war in the 1990s. Probably wanted revenge against us for forcing negotiations." "So for the moment we can comfort ourselves with the idea that this was the act of a lone madman," said the President, although he was not very comforted himself. "Yevgeni, see to it that none of our soldiers try and take revenge upon any civilians for this. Utter control and professionalism at all times. Tell the COs that this comes straight from me." "I will," nodded Yevgeni. "Is this going to affect negotiations?" "If it is the act of a lone madman, then no," said Nemerenko. "But I do want our delegation at the Hague to emphasize to both the Georgians and the Abkhazians that a peaceful settlement to their problem is critical. I'll try and get the EU mediators to emphasize the same. In the meantime, have the GRU start paying closer attention to known extremist groups in Abkhazia." Such terrible things nationalism could drive people to do. If it went on long enough, people started to forget what it was all about to begin with, simply 'us' against 'them.' Russia needed stability in the Caucasus. Russia needed peace. Especially now with the rest of the world tumbling into chaos. --- Actions: 1) Russia emphasizes to both Abkhazia and Georgia that a peaceful resolution to their conflict is critical to the future of all three nations 2) Have the GRU pay closer attention to any groups in Abkhazia that might pose a problem to the Russian/Japanese/EU PKF 3) Tell the Russian soldiers good job; you've been acting controlled and professional, make sure you keep it up. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His old one, had been one of those following the DPJ's success in last summer's election to learn just how vulnerable their cabinet posts really were. Hashimoto, was Sato's man, a professor of ecconomics at Tokyo University before he had been tapped by Sato to run in the Upper House elections. He had won of course, and in the afterglow of the party's victory, no one had minded when he had been raised to the Cabinet. Fewer still minded now having proven himself a voice of reason and an able politician. The door to Sato's office opened and Hashimoto smiled seeing the Prime Minister sitting pained behind his desk. "Looked like I missed a fun evening," he said as he closed the door softly behind him and made his way to the Prime Minister's desk and sat down. Sato kept from nodding but smiled. "Fun evening, yes, morning, no fun at all." Hashimoto smiled sympathetically. "Should we postpone?" he offered. Sato shook his head and then regretted it and flinched with pain. "Ow... no, we'll carry on." Hashimoto nodded. "Very good," he said and got his notes from his attache case. "I have looked at our situation Sato-kun, with reguards to the population issue, and I think none of the programs we have in place our reasonable in a cost-benefit sense." "None?" Sato asked. "Yes," replied Hashimoto. "Why?" "We are trying to buy our way out of what is essentially a social issue, day care, child-incetives and so forth will only push those who are thinking of having children to do so sooner, but those women who are dedicated to their careers will not change their minds for a little bit of money." "Are you sure?" Sato asked. "We need to stop thinking of working Japanese women as we normally think of women of our generation, and think of them like men, if your wife did not stay at home, would you have stopped your career to raise your children?" Sato frowned. "No, of course not." "Neither will they," Hashimoto explained. Sato chewed that over. Akemi, his only daughter was very much one of those women and he knew it was true. "What do you suggest we do then?" asked Sato. "We prepare to be a less populous nation, or we embrace immigration." Sato smiled. Perhaps Hashimoto was not as astute a politican as he thought. "Neither is going to work, not politically." Hashimoto nodded. "I know, but they our choices. Either that, or stall as other governments have done." Sato frowned and revised his assesment of Hashimoto again, that had been right out of the DPJ platform, no more stalling and offering real solutions. "What do you have in mind?" "Depends on which way you want us to go, Mr. Prime Minister." "We both know we could never sell immigration," Sato replied. "Preparing for the worst then," Hashimoto said. "Well firstly we need to review how the government spends it's money, and streamline accordingly, we don't need to worry so much about the job losses, there are plenty of civil service jobs that will be unfilled with people retiring, but we must manage things respectfully, remove jobs the occupants retire, we do not want to simply throw civil servants on to the street." "There would be riots if we tried." "Yes, and I think if we do attempt this, it needs to be internal, a board of senior civil servants who review the civil service and report to the Cabinet." "That will make the cuts less deep," Sato observed. What was that quote he had heard from the British, oh yes: reorganizing the civil service is like dragging a knife through a bowl of marbles. He imagined Japan's entrenched bureaucracy would simply side step most of the deep cuts and the little cabal they chose would support those in the service who they were close to. But it was better than nothing he supposed. "Alright," he said. "What else?" "We need to improve Japan's overall ecconomic health, which means, running balanced budgets and reducing our debt loads." Sato flinched and not because of his hang-over. The last budget was finally back to 2008 numbers and only 100 billion dollars over what they'd earned. Deficit was practically a way of life for Japan's government and the debt, the debt was massive. "What sort of timeline?" "Ten years, and keep in mind as our population retires, we will have less revenue." Sato sat back. "Alright, what else?" "We need to look at our future workforce and what direction it will take, do we want to allow immigrants into the country to do jobs there are no longer Japanese workers to do, do we put our efforts into helping companies automate those jobs, do we help companies move jobs overseas to China or a restored North Korea?" Sato knew it was nessisary. He had been thinking along the same lines when he had gotten involved in North Korea. He had just not voiced those thoughts out of fear that saying it would somehow make it more true. "I know," he confessed. "What else?" "We need to pursue free trade agreements with greater effort, especially in the countries rising from third-world status, who's middle class will soon want the products we produce." Sato nodded. "There is a great deal more isn't there?" "Yes," Hashimoto said. He layed out a dizzying array of plans, projections, charts and other things which all more or less amounted to tightening Japan's belt, expanding her trade partnerships and securing her place ecconomically and diplomatically in Asia before the worst of the ecconomic effects of the falling population hit. "So what do we do in the short term?" he asked. Hashimoto smiled. He knew Sato meant, what do we do now, to show the voters we're doing something. "If you're looking for a political solution, put forward the Population Minister's plan to offer tax breaks to seniors who look after children," he said. "But I'd have a look at our immigration polices; offer amnesty to those already in the country and perhaps loosen restrictions on those who want to come in and work for a short period of time. But make sure they are paying taxes." Sato frowned. "I'll speak to the concerned ministers," he said. Hashimoto nodded. "Let me know what you decide and we can work on these other things as well." The Finance Minister rose up and walked out of the office quietly leaving Sato to his thoughts. It was about an hour before Sato moved again and picked up the phone. "Yurika, please get the Minister of Justice on the phone, I'd like to discuss immigration with him." Actions: 1. Approve a 50,000 Yen (aprox $500usd) per child tax credit for seniors who provide daycare in their community. 2. Begin an internal review of the civil service with the goal of reducing the civil service's size in step with reduction of population and retirement of existing civil servants, make it very, very clear, we're not talking layoffs, we're looking at phasing out positions as people are retrained or retired out of them. 3. Begin discussing amnesty for existing illegal immigrants in Japan with the Cabinet and the Caucus, and float the idea of a guest worker program to the same. 4. Arrange a leak from 'sources close to the Ministry of Justice' that suggests that there may be a review of immigration policy and a fesibility study on a guest worker program. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/dda6f99f/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 15:41:46 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:41:46 -0400 Subject: [War] US: Wo henhao Message-ID: "Wo Henhao" 8 March 2014 President John Williams USA ================== It had taken a long two years, but John Williams had finally cracked the code of Mandarin. Or so the language had seemed to the President. Finally, though, something had cracked during his last few sessions with the teacher from the State Department, and now he was watching everything he could from either side of the Taiwan Strait, and reading what he could in Chinese - a much harder endeavor. But he'd pulled it off, and he listened closely to CCTV. His own pronunciations were hardly perfect, but his accent had decreased from Thick to Moderately Hong Konger, reflecting the background of his teacher. The tests had rated him at Speaking 3, Listening 3, Reading 2, Writing 2 last time, about 3 months ago. Not bad. But this time, he actually felt like he *knew* the language. Now to prepare for the summit in Vladivostok. Thus, the murder board in 10 minutes... A sigh, as Luke cried and Kay went to get him. Some days, he didn't want to be President, just a dad. A husband. Normal. Oh, that'd never happen. Back to summit prep! --- Actions: 1. Williams cracks Mandarin...albeit with an accent. 2. Summit prep. 3. Player whimpers in pain. From dylandv at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 23:30:52 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:30:52 -0700 Subject: [War] Canada: Stepping Up to the Plate Message-ID: <763946e70804052030l72936749qbfe0b3ab6aac9dc5@mail.gmail.com> 'Stepping up to the Plate' Dec.13/2013 Prime Minister James McColl Canada --------------- The atmosphere in Ottawa these days was one of both triumph and despair. On one hand, you have thousands of grit supporters who can't wait to see, in their eyes, the most reviled former Prime Minister Harper get out of office. On the other hand, you have the conservative supporters, who are already wailing about how horrible the Liberals will be. However, James McColl was oblivious to the atmosphere as he walked down Sussex Drive from his official residence at number 24. Never mind the RCMP and CSIS agents, he wanted to go for a walk, on his own, one last time. Before he got stuck with the security teams... At the moment, McColl wasn't thinking about that, he actually thinking about how his new job would be affecting his family, namely his wife Jennifer and their two children, Anna and Eric. Like everywhere around the world, so many people put their jobs ahead of family and friends here, and he wanted to be able to say that he had managed to balance the two. Yesterday he had been sworn in as Prime Minister of Canada by Governor General Michelle Louise Jenkins. Although McColl was not really sure how he felt about the monarchy, he had enjoyed the ceremonies nonetheless, and his acceptance speech was buoyed by an overwhelmingly positive crowd. Maybe further enlightenment would come to him on the issue as time progressed. James McColl had many plans that he wanted implemented. The problem was, he probably couldn't have them all, and definetly not right away. He was one of those political types who wanted to rule for the benefit of the country, not for personal enrichment; he actually despised those who were corrupt in the bureaucracy. He may or may not introduce legislation for government accountability, but that would a long term thing. He did resent the fact that the Tories had campaigned on that platform in 2006, and then had promptly forgotten everything they'd promised and then done what they wanted instead. He wanted to see young people going to university, and then coming out without $40,000 debts, he wanted to see more hospitals built to accommodate the extra patient loads of an aging population. Granted, the Medicare system needed a major overhaul, having been more or the less the same since the 1960's. He wanted to see old age pensions and security for those without disposable income rise, so that poorer people could have a comfortable retirement. They needed to find a way to stimulate the birth-rate, and opening up immigration to the levels of the early 2000's [an annual immigration rate of nearly 300,000/year!] was not an option. The list went on and on. There was also the issue of appeasing increasingly active nationalists, who wanted to see the US go down the drain. McColl knew that would never happen, but he did see the merit in a more assertive, and less passive foreign policy with the Americans. He didn't want relations with the US to be cold, but nor did he want them to be warm and cuddly, like under Harper. He also saw the merit in protecting some key Canadian industries from total American domination, even if that meant risking the yanks' displeasure. But there were ways around that. Probably the most pressing problem the grits had at this point in time was finding funding for everything they wanted to do. With the economy still struggling to get out of the hole from the recession a few years back, the balanced budget was very balanced indeed, with barely a billion dollars in surplus for the April.1-March.31 2013/2014 fiscal year. But never mind that, "But never you mind now," as his great grandmother would have said in her heavy Polish accent. James McColl was descended on his mother's side from the Polish farmers that mass-immigrated to Canada in the 20th century, and on his father's side of the Scottish McColl clan, some of whom emigrated to Canada in the 19th century after Confederation. Interestingly, many people in his family were no longer regularly practising religion, though on days such as Christmas and Easter they did make an effort to appear. Most people didn't have a problem with this, and he respected them for that, but there some Catholic revisionists in Quebec who had a heckled more than a few of his campaign stops. His strong Presbyterian work ethic had done a lot for him, but as it stands, James McColl was among the agnostic members of his family. Along with that, he was also young, being 48 years old, and thus one of the youngest Prime Ministers to date... McColl was, overall, hopefull about his prospects. Canadians viewed him as a refreshing change, being young, from the status quo; he wanted to do some good for the country, which so badly needed it after the right-wing neglect the conservatives had overseen, calling it in their usual speech 'non-interventionist'. He was also glad, that Quebec and Western separatism at this time were fading a little. Quebec and Alberta had made many a federal politician lose coherence and break down, and he was thankful that he might get away with relatively little squabbling with the provinces. Over the next few days he would be meeting with his Ministers [which the PM appoints], and he hoped to have some good, solid talks with them. He was, of course, more than a little nervous with his first meeting with a foreign leader, but he decided not to think about that for the time being. Prime Minister-ship would be a hard, lonely job, but if he wanted to do it properly, now was the time to step up to the plate and take his place. ---------------- March.8th, 2014 Prime Minister James McColl Canada The last few months had been uneventful, as the new government settled it, and Parliament resumed its Winter Session in late January. Relations were amicable with Canada's allies, and Canada was more or less forgotten by the rest of the world for moment as attention was still fixed on what the Chinese would do with North Korea. The government's attention was more or less taken up by the upcoming Spring Budget for 2014. This morning, the PM had a meeting with his Minister of Finance, to discuss the various details of the budget. Eric van der Werden, Minister of Finance, and one of McColl's closest political allies, knocked softly, and entered, shutting the door behind him. "James, its always good to see you." "Likewise, Eric." The PM got right down to business: "So Eric, you must know that a balanced budget is extremely important, we HAVE to run a surplus, otherwise the critics will be screaming at us for the rest of the term for departing the balanced budget policy of the last 18 years." He paused, then, "Although, I have been tempted to run a deficit just to piss them off." McColl grinned. "I never got a chance to say this, but I'm really glad you accepted my offer for Minister." "Thanks bud, I'm glad too." Eric opened his dossier which was chalk full of papers, notes, assessments and other assorted documents. He looked around, the beautiful old wooden paneling, the antique lamps and curiously modern computer clashed. "Well, let's get down to business shall we? I do confess that looking at the policies you promised the electorate, I was rather discouraged at how we were going to pay for it all. I'm glad you were looking more at the long term for many of them, because there is no way we can afford large spending this year unless we raise taxes or cut social spending, neither of which we are prepared to do. However, we can afford to start stimulating the economy but cutting corporate taxes as well as earmarking funding for research and development in some fields. What were your ideas? The PM looked thoughtful, "Well, I think that if we cut corporate taxes, we need to make up the funding shortfall in other areas. I have precisely the idea, to trade off those corp taxes by instituting a national carbon tax to help start modernizing our industries. They HAVE been falling behind in the last few years of our greenhouse gas emissions targets, so this will help towards that. Remember what BC did back in 2008? They introduced a carbon tax, but kept it revenue neutral by offsetting it with other tax cuts, thats what I'd like to do here." "Hmmm, I'm not sure that would stimulate the economy so much, but we could try it." van der Werden paused, then, "Maybe we should revise the financial rules to allow for more freedom in the stock market, that might generate more revenue, in a big way, and also appease many business people." "Yea that sounds good, we need to explore as many options as we can, so keep working on ways to increase our revenue this year while not pissing off too many people. At any rate, I want to go over all the options, bend some rules, and squeeze some more money out of the budget. Make things work." McColl smiled disarmingly, then continued on, "However, if possible, I'd like to increase funding for post-secondary institutions. Over the next five years I'd like to make it progressively cheaper for people to attend university and college. The standard tuition rate for many universities is $7000 per year, not to mention residence and extras. Maybe we could bring that number down to $2000 by 2019? There is another issue I'd like to talk about, how are we going to get the military going again?" "Weeelll... I'm not sure we would be able to do that this year, with our kind of funding. Why don't we see if General Girard and Minister Ansdale are available for a spontaneous meeting?" Lieutenant General Girard was the Chief of General Staff, while Ansdale was the Minister for Defense. "Sure, hey Sarah, can you put in a call and see if Girard and Ansdale are available for a meeting with me in 5 minutes?" Sarah was the PM's personal secretary. ..... 10 minutes later both Girard and Ansdale were in the office, having been in the centre block for a meeting. McColl was in his element, "First of all I want the three of you to work on Defense initiatives. Currently, we are in need of money, and then equipment, and then soldiers, am I not correct?" Girard spoke up, "You are indeed sir, the army is desperately short of new recruits, and needs new vehicles, helicopters, and ground transport. The air force needs new recruits, new planes, and more variation in what aircraft types we have, while the navy needs new ships and new personnel. All the services need money." The whole cabinet had done briefings, and the PM was well aware of what the military needed. "Very well general, as I said before, I want the three of you to work together, as money and the military go hand in hand. I want you to draft a wish list of everything that is needed, and then we can proceed from there, ok?" Contrary to what military types thought of a centre-left PM, McColl was not adverse to the needs of the military, and supported them, as his brother and cousin were both officers. The two ministers and general all concurred. The conversation went on for another couple of minutes, with Ansdale voicing some concerns about the capabilities of the military to defend the country. "Very well, you may go. I'm glad the three of us had a chance to chat in private." Three echoes of "Thank you, sir." and the two ministers and general filed out. McColl wondered if the general would take his order to heart, and actually write everything he thought they needed down. "Ah well..." he sighed. More meetings... today was going to be a long day, he still had to meet with Foreign Affairs, Industry, and Transportations among others. Maybe he would schedule a general meeting for all the Ministers so they could get on the same page. "Hey Sarah, Could you by chance..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/f20a82c9/attachment-0001.html From dylandv at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 00:09:02 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:09:02 -0700 Subject: [War] Canada: Stepping Up to the Plate Message-ID: <763946e70804052109o308e1aa4p7c6ecf8356ec71f6@mail.gmail.com> [OoC: Sorry people, forgot to put the actions in, just delete the last one.] 'Stepping up to the Plate' Dec.13/2013 Prime Minister James McColl Canada --------------- The atmosphere in Ottawa these days was one of both triumph and despair. On one hand, you have thousands of grit supporters who can't wait to see, in their eyes, the most reviled former Prime Minister Harper get out of office. On the other hand, you have the conservative supporters, who are already wailing about how horrible the Liberals will be. However, James McColl was oblivious to the atmosphere as he walked down Sussex Drive from his official residence at number 24. Never mind the RCMP and CSIS agents, he wanted to go for a walk, on his own, one last time. Before he got stuck with the security teams... At the moment, McColl wasn't thinking about that, he actually thinking about how his new job would be affecting his family, namely his wife Jennifer and their two children, Anna and Eric. Like everywhere around the world, so many people put their jobs ahead of family and friends here, and he wanted to be able to say that he had managed to balance the two. Yesterday he had been sworn in as Prime Minister of Canada by Governor General Michelle Louise Jenkins. Although McColl was not really sure how he felt about the monarchy, he had enjoyed the ceremonies nonetheless, and his acceptance speech was buoyed by an overwhelmingly positive crowd. Maybe further enlightenment would come to him on the issue as time progressed. James McColl had many plans that he wanted implemented. The problem was, he probably couldn't have them all, and definetly not right away. He was one of those political types who wanted to rule for the benefit of the country, not for personal enrichment; he actually despised those who were corrupt in the bureaucracy. He may or may not introduce legislation for government accountability, but that would a long term thing. He did resent the fact that the Tories had campaigned on that platform in 2006, and then had promptly forgotten everything they'd promised and then done what they wanted instead. He wanted to see young people going to university, and then coming out without $40,000 debts, he wanted to see more hospitals built to accommodate the extra patient loads of an aging population. Granted, the Medicare system needed a major overhaul, having been more or the less the same since the 1960's. He wanted to see old age pensions and security for those without disposable income rise, so that poorer people could have a comfortable retirement. They needed to find a way to stimulate the birth-rate, and opening up immigration to the levels of the early 2000's [an annual immigration rate of nearly 300,000/year!] was not an option. The list went on and on. There was also the issue of appeasing increasingly active nationalists, who wanted to see the US go down the drain. McColl knew that would never happen, but he did see the merit in a more assertive, and less passive foreign policy with the Americans. He didn't want relations with the US to be cold, but nor did he want them to be warm and cuddly, like under Harper. He also saw the merit in protecting some key Canadian industries from total American domination, even if that meant risking the yanks' displeasure. But there were ways around that. Probably the most pressing problem the grits had at this point in time was finding funding for everything they wanted to do. With the economy still struggling to get out of the hole from the recession a few years back, the balanced budget was very balanced indeed, with barely a billion dollars in surplus for the April.1-March.31 2013/2014 fiscal year. But never mind that, "But never you mind now," as his great grandmother would have said in her heavy Polish accent. James McColl was descended on his mother's side from the Polish farmers that mass-immigrated to Canada in the 20th century, and on his father's side of the Scottish McColl clan, some of whom emigrated to Canada in the 19th century after Confederation. Interestingly, many people in his family were no longer regularly practising religion, though on days such as Christmas and Easter they did make an effort to appear. Most people didn't have a problem with this, and he respected them for that, but there some Catholic revisionists in Quebec who had a heckled more than a few of his campaign stops. His strong Presbyterian work ethic had done a lot for him, but as it stands, James McColl was among the agnostic members of his family. Along with that, he was also young, being 48 years old, and thus one of the youngest Prime Ministers to date... McColl was, overall, hopefull about his prospects. Canadians viewed him as a refreshing change, being young, from the status quo; he wanted to do some good for the country, which so badly needed it after the right-wing neglect the conservatives had overseen, calling it in their usual speech 'non-interventionist'. He was also glad, that Quebec and Western separatism at this time were fading a little. Quebec and Alberta had made many a federal politician lose coherence and break down, and he was thankful that he might get away with relatively little squabbling with the provinces. Over the next few days he would be meeting with his Ministers [which the PM appoints], and he hoped to have some good, solid talks with them. He was, of course, more than a little nervous with his first meeting with a foreign leader, but he decided not to think about that for the time being. Prime Minister-ship would be a hard, lonely job, but if he wanted to do it properly, now was the time to step up to the plate and take his place. ---------------- March.8th, 2014 Prime Minister James McColl Canada The last few months had been uneventful, as the new government settled it, and Parliament resumed its Winter Session in late January. Relations were amicable with Canada's allies, and Canada was more or less forgotten by the rest of the world for moment as attention was still fixed on what the Chinese would do with North Korea. The government's attention was more or less taken up by the upcoming Spring Budget for 2014. This morning, the PM had a meeting with his Minister of Finance, to discuss the various details of the budget. Eric van der Werden, Minister of Finance, and one of McColl's closest political allies, knocked softly, and entered, shutting the door behind him. "James, its always good to see you." "Likewise, Eric." The PM got right down to business: "So Eric, you must know that a balanced budget is extremely important, we HAVE to run a surplus, otherwise the critics will be screaming at us for the rest of the term for departing the balanced budget policy of the last 18 years." He paused, then, "Although, I have been tempted to run a deficit just to piss them off." McColl grinned. "I never got a chance to say this, but I'm really glad you accepted my offer for Minister." "Thanks bud, I'm glad too." Eric opened his dossier which was chalk full of papers, notes, assessments and other assorted documents. He looked around, the beautiful old wooden paneling, the antique lamps and curiously modern computer clashed. "Well, let's get down to business shall we? I do confess that looking at the policies you promised the electorate, I was rather discouraged at how we were going to pay for it all. I'm glad you were looking more at the long term for many of them, because there is no way we can afford large spending this year unless we raise taxes or cut social spending, neither of which we are prepared to do. However, we can afford to start stimulating the economy but cutting corporate taxes as well as earmarking funding for research and development in some fields. What were your ideas? The PM looked thoughtful, "Well, I think that if we cut corporate taxes, we need to make up the funding shortfall in other areas. I have precisely the idea, to trade off those corp taxes by instituting a national carbon tax to help start modernizing our industries. They HAVE been falling behind in the last few years of our greenhouse gas emissions targets, so this will help towards that. Remember what BC did back in 2008? They introduced a carbon tax, but kept it revenue neutral by offsetting it with other tax cuts, thats what I'd like to do here." "Hmmm, I'm not sure that would stimulate the economy so much, but we could try it." van der Werden paused, then, "Maybe we should revise the financial rules to allow for more freedom in the stock market, that might generate more revenue, in a big way, and also appease many business people." "Yea that sounds good, we need to explore as many options as we can, so keep working on ways to increase our revenue this year while not pissing off too many people. At any rate, I want to go over all the options, bend some rules, and squeeze some more money out of the budget. Make things work." McColl smiled disarmingly, then continued on, "However, if possible, I'd like to increase funding for post-secondary institutions. Over the next five years I'd like to make it progressively cheaper for people to attend university and college. The standard tuition rate for many universities is $7000 per year, not to mention residence and extras. Maybe we could bring that number down to $2000 by 2019? There is another issue I'd like to talk about, how are we going to get the military going again?" "Weeelll... I'm not sure we would be able to do that this year, with our kind of funding. Why don't we see if General Girard and Minister Ansdale are available for a spontaneous meeting?" Lieutenant General Girard was the Chief of General Staff, while Ansdale was the Minister for Defense. "Sure, hey Sarah, can you put in a call and see if Girard and Ansdale are available for a meeting with me in 5 minutes?" Sarah was the PM's personal secretary. ..... 10 minutes later both Girard and Ansdale were in the office, having been in the centre block for a meeting. McColl was in his element, "First of all I want the three of you to work on Defense initiatives. Currently, we are in need of money, and then equipment, and then soldiers, am I not correct?" Girard spoke up, "You are indeed sir, the army is desperately short of new recruits, and needs new vehicles, helicopters, and ground transport. The air force needs new recruits, new planes, and more variation in what aircraft types we have, while the navy needs new ships and new personnel. All the services need money." The whole cabinet had done briefings, and the PM was well aware of what the military needed. "Very well general, as I said before, I want the three of you to work together, as money and the military go hand in hand. I want you to draft a wish list of everything that is needed, and then we can proceed from there, ok?" Contrary to what military types thought of a centre-left PM, McColl was not adverse to the needs of the military, and supported them, as his brother and cousin were both officers. The two ministers and general all concurred. The conversation went on for another couple of minutes, with Ansdale voicing some concerns about the capabilities of the military to defend the country. "Very well, you may go. I'm glad the three of us had a chance to chat in private." Three echoes of "Thank you, sir." and the two ministers and general filed out. McColl wondered if the general would take his order to heart, and actually write everything he thought they needed down. "Ah well..." he sighed. More meetings... today was going to be a long day, he still had to meet with Foreign Affairs, Industry, and Transportations among others. Maybe he would schedule a general meeting for all the Ministers so they could get on the same page. "Hey Sarah, Could you by chance..." -------------- Actions: 1: Introduce new characters. 2: Go over some parts of the platform and current political problems. 3: Make sure people know the new government is aware of the importance of a strong military. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/92a1cdce/attachment.html From martellian at hotmail.com Mon Apr 7 14:03:08 2008 From: martellian at hotmail.com (Ian) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:03:08 -0700 Subject: [War] Japan: "The Strangers Amoung Us" Message-ID: OOC: Changing the date of "Headaches" to 10 March, and keeping it in the this WR. This post follows. "The Strangers Amoung Us" Prime Minister Shunichi Sato Japan 10 March 2014 ---------------------------- Japan was a hard country to live in if you weren't Japanese; and unlike the West where you could be American or Canadian just by crossing the border filling out some form and jumping through some hoops, to be Japanese, you had to be born of Japanese parents, who were in turn born of Japanese back until your neighbours forgot, otherwise you were Gaijin. Sato had grown up with that and was fine with it really, in some ways he was even proud; while the rest of the world became a melting pot had Japan retained it's identity. However he was also aware that the countries who survived were like bamboo, they bent in the wind. So he too was willing to bend. To that end he met with the Minister of Justice Matsumoto and Minister of Education Sekihara to discuss plans for the future of Japan's non-native populations, and it's one non-Japanese native one. Sato sat down with the Ministers at his conference table just off of his office and nodded as tea was served. "I know these are troubling subjects so let us start with the easiest things first," he said. The men nodded gratefully and the Justice Minister began. "The Burakumin," he began speaking of Japan's untouchable class who traditionally worked as butchers, leather workers and undertakers who by the standards of Shinto were unclean due to their contact with death. "We were discussing making looking into a person's family background illegal for employers." Sato nodded. "Yes," he said. "And firing Burakumin if their history is discovered after employment." The Justice Minister inclined his head. "Yes." Sato knew as well as the others this would be only a token gesture and would effect only the most low level jobs, senior jobs, management and so on would always involve some inquiry into the applicant's family history, however under the law it would now have to be unofficial. Sekihara who came from the party's far-left asked. "What about marriage arrangments?" Matsumoto shook his head. "Impossible to legislate, families will always want to know who their children are marrying and we have no right to interfere with it." "Yes, but if these people are denyed marriage we are effectively committing genocide." Sato knew this was going to go on for a bit if he didn't step in. "Sekihara-san, the Justice Minister is correct, we cannot interfere with the actions of families." Sekihara frowned but nodded. "Yes, Mr. Prime Minister." Genocide? Sato thought as he sat back and listened to the Justice Minister spin out his proposal for the bill introduction, a touch over-dramatic, Burakumin married all the time, yes, often to their own kind, but then it was only a responsible for a parent to prevent their children marrying one of their kind, what good would that do their children? His mind came back to the present. "Have you informed the business community about our intent?" Sato asked Matsumoto. "Yes, I mentioned it to a number of my aquaintances, it will be widely known by now." Good, the last thing they needed was to raise the ire of buisiness over such a token law. "When do you see us moving ahead with this?" "We will introduce it for it's first reading next week there is likely to be no opposition." Sato nodded. "Good, next then I suppose," he checked the agenda. "The Ainu." Japan's indiginous population. Again you could lay their problems at the door of Shinto, which claimed that the O-Kami created Japan and the Japanese people; another people being here first somewhat complicated that belief. Sato for his part was perfectly fine reconciling his faith in Shinto with the facts of science. The texts were works of men, the Kami, were a matter of faith. Sekihara took over. "We're adding to April's budget, with the approval of the Finance Ministry, a billion yen for the preservation of the Ainu language and special grants to schools in the Hokkaido region who provide classes in the language to their Ainu students over the next three years." Sato nodded. It was past due, the Ainu language was all but extinct and no matter what the Kojiki might say, he felt the Ainu were part of his Japan and worthy of preservation. Matsumoto added. "They will also be allowed to be added to the Family Registry without modification of their names," he said. The Family Registry was how you were counted in Japan, it was a census, record of your birth, marriage, death and property all in one, and under the existing laws you needed to have a Japanese name writeable in Kanji to be added, meaning it had to be Japanese. "Very good," he said. "The next subject, the foreign residents." "Well I think the amensity will be accepted by the people but we will have a hard time of naturalizing the foreign communities in Japan. They are either too different in the case of Westerners and the South Americans, or they are too distrusted in the case of the Chinese and Koreans." Sato frowned, this from the party who had four members of the Diet who were foreigners born in Japan. Matsumoto continued. "In particular the Koreans are a concern, the Korean Residence Union and the Association of Korean Residents in Japan have both been stirring up problems of late with the conflict in North Korea." The Korean Residence Union or Midran as it was called for short primarily supported the South Korean side of the penninsula's dispute, and actively supported it's people keeping their Korean identity while living in Japan; the Association of Korean Residents or Chosen Soren was depending on who you ask either strongly allied to, or a front for the government of old North Korea. Both groups were actively lobbying for Japan to oppose the Chinese mission in North Korea, for once in their organizational lives agreeing on something. However a couple of violent protests had coloured them poorly in the country's perception. "I see what you mean," Sato said. Matsumoto nodded. "Yes, and in reguards to Chosen Soren, Koancho wanted permission to quietly contact the Chinese intelligence community about any information they might have on Chosen Soren's activities during the Kim regime." "They have it, to what end though?" "We have an opportunity here to prove if they had anything to do with the abductions of Japanese citizens and arrest foreign intelligence assets on Japanese soil." Sato nodded. "Let's approach the North Korean's too, bribe them if nessissary, I am sure some of the members of the Provisional Government would have access to the information we're after." Matsumoto grunted his agreement. "I'll make sure Koancho begins looking into this. Now, are we going ahead with these changes for the foreigners currently living in Japan?" Sato sat back and then shook his head. "No, not yet, we'll see how our leak to the media plays with the public. If there seems to be support we'll move forward, if not, then we'll put it on a shelf for a while. However unless there is strenuous objection from your ministry or the cabinet, I'd like to allow non-Japanese spouses of Japanese citizens on the Family Registry, with kana-ized names. Matsumoto made another agreeing noise. "I do not think anyone in the ministry will disagree to that, however the family registry is managed at a local level, I would appreciate if we could speak with the local governments before there is any public announcement of our plans." Sato nodded. "Of course." He turned to Sekihara. "And you had one last intitiative for in reguards to language?" The Minister nodded. "Yes, my Ministry would like to support classes in the languages of the Ryukyu islands in schools in that region." Sato nodded. He'd read the report, it was sound, support for in class studies of those languages and funds for after school programs as well, all for around three billion yen over five years. Expensive yes, but culturally important. "I approve, we'll introduce it in the budget." Shortly after the meeting ajourned. note: billion yen aprox 10 million USD Actions: 1. Propose a bill that makes looking at a person's family history illegal for perspective employers, the same bill also proposes to make firing a Burakumin an offence. Both crimes will be punishable with fines of $10,000 USD. The Japanese business community will be given advance warning as not to blind side them. 2. Add 1 billion yen (10 million USD) over three years to the budget for classes in the Hokkaido region aimed at teaching the Ainu the Ainu languange. Additionally a bill will be proposed to add the Ainu to the Family Registry without requiring them to choose a Japanese name. 3. Continue to debate naturalization of Japan's foreign residents. 4. Allow foreign spouses of Japanese citizens to be entered into the Family Registry without needing to choose Japanese names. (Currently foreign spouses are added as a footnote and any children are listed as illegitimate) 5. Add 3 billion yen (30 million USD) over five years to the budget for classes to teach the languages of the Ryukyu's in the Okninawa prefecture. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nemerenko recalled how astounded he had been at the easy access Japanese students had to things like photocopiers and typewriters; such equipment had only recently been tightly controlled in Russia. Of course the control of information was in no way a purely Soviet innovation. The Americans too had been aware of its power. That was why FDR had persuaded major manufacturing and media companies to delay the widespread introduction of the television until after the Great Patriotic War, or 'World War Two' as the Amerikanski called it, had been concluded. A question that ate at Nemerenko was simple: was Russia different now in terms of freedom of thought and information as it had been under the Soviets? Many would say no. Thanks to Putin, Russia had slid to 147th out of 168 in terms of press freedom in 2005. Though that had been ten years ago and Russia's leaders since, Severov and now Nemerenko himself, did not feel the need to thuggishly impose their will on the nation by force, the scars of Putin's failed neo-authoritarian regime were still present. "If Russia is to continue the path towards become a true, First World democracy then the free flow of information and the protection of people's right to think for themselves must be safeguarded," said the President as he poured a glass of Bavarian lager. Vodka was the national drink of Russia but 'bourgeois' beer had been one of the most widely-embraced novelties of the post-Soviet Russia, previously unavailable unless you could smuggle it in from the West or knew someone who was brewing in the basement of their house. "That we are once again emerging as the most powerful country in Europe and become recognized again as a power on the world stage should not be overshadowed by our lacklustre record of media freedom." "I certainly agree, Comrade President," said Feodor Rushigan, Minister of Culture and Mass Communications. "I remember so many of my colleges being beaten, imprisoned and even killed while Putin was still in power." "Colleges like Politkovskaya," said Nemerenko. Anna Politkovskaya had been one of the most respected and famous journalists in Russia and an outspoken critic of the Kremlin at the time. She'd been murdered in 2006, no doubt by someone in the government who had been threatened by her determination to write about the truth. To date her death remained unsolved. "Just because this government does not see the need to browbeat the press for our own gain like the Putin administration did does not mean there are not problems, because there are." "That is why my Ministry wished to call our proposed bill to the Assembly the 'Politkovskaya Act,'" explained Rushigan. "A comprehensive law that would do a number of things. First, it would reaffirm the commitment to the freedom of speech outlined in the Federation Constitution. Second, any act of violence or intimidation that has the express act of harming or impeding the press, media and the principle of freedom or information will carry an automatic prison sentence of five years." "I suppose you'll want me to add onto the budget of our police and security services to impose that part," sighed Nemerenko. "Such is the price we must pay, Comrade President," replied Rushigan dryly. "Perhaps two billion rubles?" That was about a hundred million US Dollars, not an unreasonable sum. "Alright," agreed the President. While he was at it Nemerenko would have a very long chat with Interior Minister Kalugin. It had been groups like he MVD, FSB and local militia that had done much of the suppressive acts again the media, after all. Kalugin had that cunning and ruthless touch that could impress upon the security services that such behaviour would be frowned upon. "On a related note, I'm removing all the bans placed upon NGOs that Putin had put in place. For obvious reasons he didn't want organizations like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International snooping around looking at his dirty laundrey. Since we are actually committed to the ideas of liberty, democracy and the rule of law, such bans are unseemly." And who knew? Maybe the NGOs would snoop out some problems that Nemerenko couldn't always see. "A wise idea," agreed Rushigan. Putin's ban on NGOs had been a clear sign to both Russians and the world that the deposed president had been sliding the Federation further and further towards a renewed dictatorship. Abolishing the laws that Putin had enacted to limit activity of such groups would demonstrate to the world how committed the new Russia was towards liberty. Liberty. Such a difficult goal to realize. Even very free nations like the United States, enemy, rival and friend to Russia, struggled, to preserve freedom and liberty. How easy it was for supposedly 'democratic' institutions like the Assembly or even the American Congress to pass thoroughly anti-democratic pieces of legislation in direct opposition to provisions within their own constitutions. The Patriot Act for the US and...... well, Nemerenko could write a list ten miles long on what the Assembly had passed in the last few years of Putin's reign. Government was more often than not the plague of liberty, but in this particular instance it would be the cure. --- Actions: 1) Introduce the Politkovskaya Act to the Federal Assembly. Guarantee the freedom of the media and press in Russia. Make the use of violence and other criminal acts to intimidate the media and limit freedom of the press a criminal offence. 2) Authorize the spending of 2 billion rubles (100 million USD) to enforce the criminal section of the Politkovskaya Act. 3) Have a long chat with Minister Kalugin to have him impose onto the Russian police and security services that the illegal repression of the press and media will no longer be tolerated. This is counterproductive to liberty, democracy and Russia's new commitment to the rule of law. 4) Russia will no longer impose bans on NGOs like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch as Putin did. All anti-NGO laws passed by Putin will be abolished. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Finance Minister van der Werden was quite successful in wracking up necessary funds for the university and military initiatives, earmarking nearly $15 billion for this year alone. He had also managed to increase the surplus by cutting some unnecessary government initiatives. Among the people attending the meeting were the Finance Minister, Defense Minister John Ansdale, Foreign Affairs Minister Julia Bachman, Industry Minister Jacques le Mieux, and Public Works Minister Perrin Gassou. The top military brass were all present, including Jean Pierre Girard, the Chief of Defence Staff and various other Admirals and Generals. The PMO had developed a healthy and respectful working relationship with the various arms of the government over the last few months, and that included the Defence Staff. McColl had wanted to be sure that his image as a slightly centre-left politician was not tarnished by people who stereotyped lefties as anti-military. Already, critics were working on the government, but they had so far managed to avoid the worst of it. McColl had arrived 15 minutes early, and greeted everyone as they came through the doors. The guards saluted everyone as they came through, and then they all sat at a round table in the room. The meeting room was in the Centre Block on Parliament Hill, so they were right at the heart of government. The people assembled in this room represented the leadership of the nation. McColl began with general greetings and news from around the world, and then the real work began. He handed the show over to the Chief of the Defence Staff, Girard. Lieutenant General Jean-Pierre Girard had made the army his career. At age 72, he sat on the pinnacle of the armed forces, and was still going strong. A driven man, he had fought in Korea, peacekept [as an officer] in Yugoslavia and Lebanon, and had, for the last 3 years, served as CoDS. He began with an update of the current state of military expenditures. "Well gents, I'm sorry to say I wish I could have a little more pride in our armed forces. The state of the military is not so great as an understatement. To start with, we only spend 1.6% of our GDP on defence, so in that regard, we have been behind all our allies for nearly three decades. The United States spends in the 4% category, while the Europeans and Australians are at the 2% mark. I suggest we increase our spending to a minimum of 2%, which will amount to about $30 billion per year, up from $22 billion-ish. This should give us a good boost in our ability to defend the nation if it comes under attack as well as giving us a little more power to project overseas to peacekeeping and other duties." At that point the PM spoke up, "Sorry to interrupt, Eric, do we have enough this year and for the coming years to incorporate that increase in the budget?" "That we do, sir. In fact, if we needed to, theres room in the budget for another $5 billion on top of that. A warning though, that cuts the surplus right down to the hundreds of millions." "Alright, Eric, I want you to give the military a $12billion increase per year from now on, so that puts us at what? $34 billion now. That seems to be a better number, that way, you can keep a healthy surplus of a couple billion. You may continue General." "Thank you sir. Now that we have that sorted out, I'd like to move on the matter of equipment procurement. General Voyeux has details on the air force, if you please General." Voyeux was a long-time air force man. As head of Air Command, he probably knew it better than anyone else here. "Thank you general. The air force has two overarching problems at this point. Firstly, our aircraft are ancient. The CF-18's are nearing the end of their operational lifespans in the next few years. I suggest we phase them out and start replacing them with F-35's. The F-35 is a multipurpose fighter aircraft developed in the last 10 years by a coalition of western nations, us included, in the Joint Strike Fighter program. It has comparable performance to the new Sukhoi's, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Dassault Rafale. We actually only have 60 combat operational aircraft, and that number will decrease as time goes on. The rest are either for training or useless. We need ideally 200 aircraft to completely cover our entire airspace." "That's not to mention of course our transport aircraft, which are actually 5 years past the end of their service lifetimes. We MUST acquire more of them. The ability to transport troops, supplies, and equipment is crucial to any military operation, whether inside Canada or overseas. For too many years, we have relied on the Americans for transport, I believe it's time we took matters into our own hands, which will needless to say make things easier for us." He paused. Everyone seemed to digest this quietly. "I agree completely," that was Minister Ansdale, "I'm sure it's not only the Americans who are tired of ferrying us around. Our own troops and logistics are constantly complaining that they have to work around the yanks' schedules." "That is, of course, what happens when you neglect heavy lifting capacity for as long as we have." said Voyeux. "If I may continue?" Nods around the table. "Very well. Airbus has the A400 strategic lift aircraft, which will supplement the four C-17 Globemasters we currently operate quite nicely. It is a newer aircraft, and has a more capable performance. That being said, they are slightly more expensive. The air force has had its eye on the A400 since it came out in 2009, and we would need 15 to cover all our needs." Another pause. When no one spoke up, he continued. "Mobility is another crucial point for the 'forces. I propose we acquire heavy and medium transport helicopters for battlefield and logistics transport. The Americans are now using the latest design of their famous 'Black Hawk' helicopter, which is the UH-60M utility helicopter. The Europeans are now using the NH90-TTH heavy lift; both of these designs in the right quantities will give the army the lifting capacity it needs. The Defence Staff proposes that we acquire 150 UH60's and 25 NH-90's. These will replace the Griffons we are currently using, which is a design that first went into production in 1981. All the aircraft will give us equipment lasting for a good 20-25 years. The other major problem we have is a lack of service personnel. No one really wants to go into the air force unless you're going to be a pilot. We need more people. Thank you gentlemen." Voyeux sat as everyone looked thoughtful, the politicians among them wondering how much this would cost, and the military types that they couldn't believe this was finally happening. "Thank you, Pierre." That was PM. "I agree as I'm sure everybody else does that the Air Force, and not only them but the whole service, has been neglected for the last 25 years. This is a great thing that we're sitting down and doing something about the problems the CAF face. However, please realize that these changes will take up to several years to materialize. Girard, on the army, if you please?" Girard stood up and went to the projected screen at the front of the room, which changed from the air force presentation to that of the army. "The situation of the army is not so bad as that of the air force. The time the conservatives spent in office did not completely go to waste. The current Regular Force stands at 85,000 active duty troops and the Army Reserve is at 40,000. First off: I propose we increase our troops levels to 100,000 Reg Force troops and leave the Reserves where they're at. That could be partially accomplished from converting Reserve units into Reg Force, although that would only account for 5,000 of the 15,000. We could then recruit more for the reserves, as they are a popular side-job for young people, that shouldn't be too hard." "Secondly, our small arms are getting out of date, with the C7 rifle the most pressing. It is based off the M16A2, and entered production back in 1982. We need a more modern rifle. I recommend we start developing our own new rifle, compatible with NATO standards of course and that we give the contract out to domestic defense manufacturers. We should start from scratch, so that we have a completely unique design, which we could then market out to other countries." "For vehicles, our C2 Leopard Main Battle Tanks are based off the Leopard 1A5, which were developed, again, in the 1980's. The French have an excellent design called the GIAT Leclerc MBT. It has been in production since 1991. It has a larger calibre main cannon and an auto-loading system, which we like. It compares quite well to our current Leopard 2's and other modern armour. We'd be looking at 250 to supplement our current Leopard 2's, of which we have 100. That would give us a very respectable armoured force, and we'd be ordering directly from the manufacturer, not second hand, so they will last us for quite a long time. Modern armour design has not changed much since the 1990's, so the apparent age of the design should not be a problem. The Leclerc is part of a newer generation of armour." Girard took a drink from his glass of water. Julia Bachman took the opportunity to share a joke, and everyone laughed. He continued on gamely, "Regarding our APC's and secondary vehicles. The LAV-III's we have right now are good vehicles, but again, we lost so many in Afghanistan, the 550 or so we currently have just aren't enough. We need to get back to pre-Afghanistan levels, which means ordering new ones. Seeing as they entered service in 1999, we wont be needing to replace them for a long time, although perhaps initiatives to update and create variants might be started. General Motors still has the capacity to build more, so I recommend we buy another 200. The Germans and Dutch have developed a new APC called the Boxer MRAV, or multi-role armoured vehicle. Those can replace our old M113's and AVGP's. As for our support vehicles, they too need replacing. Many of them are 40 or 50 years old, and obviously are long obsolete." At that point, the meeting was interrupted for a washroom and stretch-the-legs break. Five minutes later, they were all back at the table, ready and focussed. Admiral Matthew Charpentier took over from the CoDS for the Navy briefing. "Alright everyone, onto the Navy." He grinned, and they all smiled knowing smiles. "The Navy has three overwhelming problems confronting it. A: A lack of personnel, B: An AGED fleet, and C: Major funding shortfalls. I'll go through each point starting with A of course. Many of our ships leave port with only a 4/5 complement. That is needless to say a danger both to them and the ships. A lack of properly trained crew means they are overworked, and means more things can go wrong. We need enough crew to operate our vessels without multi-tasking. I've seen this first hand." Charpentier paused, and took a quick sip of water. "B. I'm not sure if it ever occurred to anyone in the old government, but our ships are *OLD*. The Protecteur class of supply ship entered service in 1969!" He sounded incredulous that politicians had let this go unnoticed. "Our Iroquois Class destroyers entered service in 1972, and the Victoria Class subs that we bought off the Brits were built in the 1980's. The most modern ships we have are the Orca Class training vessels for our cadets and new recruits, being 2006. Our Halifax Class frigates are excellent ships no doubt, but they are nearing 20 years of age as well, coming into service from 1992 to 1996." "So what exactly are you getting at, Admiral?" That was Foreign Affairs Minister Julia Bachman, who was beginning to wonder why she had been invited to this meeting. "What I'm getting at, Minister," and he put a look into his eye as he said it, "is that we should be acquiring new ships. Maritime Command has come up with plans, with the cooperation of the Public Works and Industry ministries, to jump-start our faltering national ship-building business with naval construction and acquisitions. We'd like to replace the Protecteur Class as soon as possible, with four new ships, which we call the 'Saguenay Class' for preliminary purposes. One of them ideally would be winter ice-capable for use in the Arctic." That got a set of raised eyebrows from Foreign Affairs Minister Bachman, but nothing more. Charpentier continued without noticing. "To replace the three Iroquois destroyers, we are proposing a revisionary 'Tribal II Class' as tribute to those who sacrificed for the country in the Second World War. This would be a 6 ship class, of which 2 would again be winter-ice capable for Arctic uses. As for our frigates, we would like to acquire 4 more, winter-ice capable of course for as you might guess, use in the Arctic. We do have ideas for a cruiser type vessel, but nothing concrete at this time." That again got raised eyebrows from Bachman, and also from Eric van der Werden, who hadn't known anything about this before-hand. "Rest assured," Charpentier had picked up on van der Werden and Bachman that time, "these are longer term plans. If we do at all go for cruisers, it won't be for some time to come." He did have a wishful look in his eyes when he said that. "Talking about funding. Over the last few years, funding has been either siphoned off to other projects or maintenance duties. That means that ships are leaving port less and less often. That also means our crews are getting less sea time, and that has led to an erosion of our recruiting efforts, as well as crew and team building experience. Hopefully with the new budget, we can rectify these problems. Thank you for listening ladies and gents." The admiral sat. Eric van der Werden spoke at that moment with a strained voice. "So, how the hell am I expected to pay for all this? Hmmm? It will cost billions. The largest defense acquisitions made at one time probably ever in Canadian history. Not to mention the pubic will freak. This is appalling." Industry Minister Jacques le Mieux just smiled grimly and said in his heavy Quebecois accent, "Well Eric, you're going to have to do whatever you can. Cut any unnecessary programs, like advertisements and such. Start phasing out positions in the bureaucracy that will become no longer needed fairly and in timely fashion. My department is willing work with Finance to initiate industrial policies. I know we campaigned on attracting some heavy industry back to Canada, and that will undoubtedly stimulate the economy. My best advice would be to stagger the payments over the next few years so its in manageable chunks." le Mieux had been the opposition finance critic a few years back, as well as a professor of economics at Concordia University in Montreal. Van der Werden was new to the post after a cabinet shake-up after the election. "What are the costs of this modernization initiative going to be? We also need to come up with a name for it so we can refer to it. Undoubtedly the Americans among others will be wondering what the hell happened to make us do something like this, so I'm going to have to do some explaining." There were the raised eyebrows of Foreign Affairs Minister Bachman again. Admiral Charpentier laughed darkly. Girard garnered the attention at that point. He said, "I got my staff to run some cost analyses," Van der Werden snorted derisively. "We've come to a consensus on the cost and a name for the project: The CAF Modernization Initiative. Here's the numbers." His staff passed out a dossier several pages thick to each person at the table. The numbers were: Army- 250 Leclerc MBT's: $1.075 billion. 200 LAV-III's: $200 million 500 Boxer MRAV: $2 billion Development of new standard rifle: $500 million Replacement of support vehicles: $500 million Navy- 4 'Saguenay' Class Supply ships: $2 billion 4 new ice-capable frigates: $800 million 6 'Tribal II Class' destroyers: $5billion 3 Virginia Class nuclear attack submarines: $6 billion Air Force: 200 F-35 A's and B's: $8 billion 25 NH-90's: $475 million 150 UH-60M's: $750 million 15 Airbus A400's: $2billion Army Cost: $4.275 billion Air Force Cost: $11.225 billion Naval Cost: $13.8 billion Total Cost: $29.3 billion "Tabernac! Is it just me, or am I seeing 'Virginia Class nuclear attack sub' on this sheet? What the frick?!?!" That was Public Works Minister Perrin Gassou. At that point, the attention went back to McColl, who was sitting quietly with his head bowed and fingers pressed to his forehead. Everyone knew what that meant. After a few moments he felt their eyes and looked up. Smiling weakly as he rose, McColl then walked to the front of the room. "My friends, as we have all just seen, our military forces are in all-together desperate straights. Thanks to 35 years of declining or static funding, not even keeping up to inflation, it has most unfortunately fallen to us to fix all these problems." "Faced with the rise of China, recent events in the Far East," which of course was referring to North Korea, "and increased Russian activity in the Arctic, we are given the options of either rebuilding our armed forces or be increasingly marginalized in the world at large. We can expect continued violations of our Arctic waters by Russian and American nuclear submarines, a further loss of face with the Americans and other militarily powerful countries, and a loss of influence in international affairs if we fail in this regard." "Of course, the Canadian military also faces a loss of face with our own citizens as well. The group we have in this room are the most influential people today in Canada. Canadians have, in the last few years, become less afraid of harnessing nuclear than they have in the past. I have talked this over with MARCOM, and they agree with me that it is time Canada acquired both nuclear submarines and began a project in cooperation with Sweden in stealth destroyer technology." Julia Bachman's mouth dropped, and the rest of the room went very still. Everyone stared at the Prime Minister. They could not believe what they had just heard, especially coming from someone like James, who was anti-nuclear proliferation. "I know, I know. This is sounding ridiculous to you all. I'm also far from happy myself." He smiled disarmingly. "But, and the head of CSIS concurs, it is time that we, accept our destiny as a part of the Western world, with defense obligations to the free world. But you also need take no further a look than at what nuclear submarines can do. Because the navy has experience with the Victoria Class we bought from the UK, we can more easily integrate that into our Arctic sovereignty program. The American Virginia Class can stay underwater for months at a time, and is one of the most advanced of its type. They would primarily be used for the Arctic and would not leave Canadian waters, at least for the first few years." McColl paused for a second to sip some water, as his voice was getting raspy. "Of course, we would most certainly NOT be equipping them with nuclear missiles. That would be against everything we stand for. Instead, we would be using them for close in shore insertions, tracking within territorial waters, and deterrent with conventional cruise missiles. As for the stealth destroyer program, this is early days yet. Nothing is set in stone. I wanted to throw the idea out into the open for our minds to churn over. I haven't even talked to Sweden yet." "There is one other thing I'd like to mention. I want Public Works, Industry, and the Navy to cooperate on placing a hydrophone and underwater sensor system in our Arctic waters. I think its time we showed the world Canada is serious about our Arctic territory. They need to stop trespassing and go through us if they need to pass through." "I never thought I would personally have to deal with a situation like this. Our left wing voters will not be happy, and a reaction from the public is obviously to be expected. I want our people out there, mixing with the population, answering their questions, giving truthful, fair, and reasonable answers, and being visible. The last thing we need is to be secretive. I want this to be an open process, transparent. Understood?" Everyone acknowledged. "Alright everyone, thanks for coming, and listening. This had to be done, regardless of whether we wanted to or not. Time is up, and every moment we waited would have cost more. This meeting is adjourned." He sighed. --------------------- Actions: 1: introduce new characters 2: character development 3: ascertain exactly how badly the CAF is doing 4: look at options 5: decide that now is the time to act, authorizing equipment acquisitions across a broad spectrum and increase the military budget 6: show the world that Canada once again means business -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080407/f705221e/attachment-0001.html From john.penta at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 17:28:14 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:28:14 -0400 Subject: [War] US: The Old Alliance Message-ID: "The Old Alliance" SECDEF Julius Abbot USA ============= Ensconced back in Washington as his boss fought diplomatic battles in Siberia (well, Vladivostok was cold enough), and with his State Department colleague alongside POTUS, Julius Abbot was looking over the morning reports from US military commands around the world. Canada rose to the top of their list...well, instantly. The new Canadian rifle program posed a threat to the US-UK Next-Generation Rifle project...Indeed, the project's central goal was a NATO-standard rifle, or as close as they could get. In addition, the idea of Canadian Virginia-class subs had raised eyebrows at the Pentagon. However, the note he was writing would leave aside the second topic, instead focusing on the first. --- Fr: Abbot, SECDEF To: Ansdale, MND Ottawa [Wolfe encryption] Minister Ansdale, I saw the Globe and Mail today. Have kicked your request on the subs to the White House. President Williams will start the decision process when he returns from Vladivostok. Navy says they would cost $2.17 Billion per unit - no lower. I must express my department's confusion in regards to your new rifle project. Canada, like all NATO members, has had a standing invitation to join in the Anglo-American Next Generation Rifle project. Given the benefits of a common infantry weapon to Canadian logistics and procurement, we wonder as to the wisdom of a competing rifle in NATO service, particularly having two different rifles in North American defense. Finally, I welcome your government's recommitment to the F-35. Your decision will help costs for the entire F35 team, and contribute greatly to improved North American air defense. Allow me to extend, Minister, my continued assurance of my highest regards. Iulius Abbot Secretary of Defense --- Actions: 1. Quietly leak concern from "Senior Pentagon Sources" as to the new Canadian Rifle project and its effect on North American defense. 2. Approve of the Canuck F35 buys. 3. Kick the Canadian VA class SSN buy request upstairs. From dylandv at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 19:40:04 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 16:40:04 -0700 Subject: [War] Canada: Commitment Message-ID: <763946e70804071640r79e8812sbaf70c13c8e8967c@mail.gmail.com> 'Commitment' Prime Minister James McColl Minister of National Defence John Ansdale Minister of Foreign Affairs Julia Bachman Canada The PMO: Bachman grinned, "Well they certainly got back to us fast. We haven't even contacted them regarding the subs, and already they're paranoid." "Julia, you have to remember it's their business to know everything nearly instantly. Anything less would make them seem... less capable?" That was Ansdale, he grinned too. "At any rate, I suppose we should get back them. John, you should really get back to Abbot as soon as you can." "Mmmm, true Julia, true. Alright, I'll go do that now." After Ansdale cleared out, McColl and Bachman started discussing the public reaction. "They reacted no differently than we expected. This is obviously creating controversy." "Like you said, we never expected anything less." She smiled, "Did you read the Globe and the National Post? Two completely different articles. The Globe wasn't really sure what to think, they just sort of laid out what John announced. The National Post though warmly endorsed our initiative." "But I think overall the Americans like the idea. It's about time we pulled up our socks and got down to business. We did know though that they wouldn't be too happy about the new rifle project. I think we should invite their cooperation and input, because they do have a lot of experience designing weaponry after all." "Yea I agree Julia. They would be hopefully somewhat appeased by that. We could just offer them a stake in the project, that way they could decide which they like better when its all said and done." "You're right, we could. But would they take it, and they would probably just go and take over the project anyways. We should proceed cautiously on that note." "Mmhmm. Well I suppose you have some work to do, I won't keep you." "Alright, thank you sir." "No problemo, oh, and by the way, lend me your Globe once you're done, mine didn't come today." A half hour later, Ansdale was in his office reading over Abbot's correspondence. -------- From: John Ansdale, MND Canada To: Iulius Abbot, SECDEF USA Regarding your Previous Correspondence. Mr Secretary, Please allow to me extend my warmest greetings. I know that we have not corresponded much in the last few months of my term, so let us rectify this beginning now. We are, of course, aware of the United States' concern over our rifle project, and we didn't enter into it lightly. At this time, we view it as within our interests to design our own rifle, that we may incorporate changes as we see necessary without needing to cater to other nations' needs. However, that being said, we do invite the cooperation of the United States to our project in an observer and possibly technical sense if you so desire. We are aware that the US has much more experience in weaponry design than we do. As to the nuclear submarine issue, let me assure you that Canada remains as committed as ever to North American defense. That is why we propose to acquire the Virginia class. Because the Chinese, and to a lesser extent the Russians, have in recent years increased their submarine activity, we have realized that Canada needs its own boats too, to the mutual benefit of the United States and our own nation. We do understand that your government may be leery, and are fully willing to accept the $170 million increase per boat. We are also willing to work with the US to alleviate any concerns you may have over this issue. If your government authorizes the sale, we most definetly will *NOT* be equipping them with nuclear deterrent. We are also fully prepared to accept that you may not be willing to authorize such a sale, and we wish that this does not affect the current working relationship our two governments have. Please let me know of any changes. My highest regards, John Ansdale Minister for National Defence ---------- Actions: 1: reassure the US of Canada's good intentions regarding the rifle project 2: reassure the US of Canada's good intentions regarding the nuclear subs 3: invite the US to participate in the rifle project in a limited capacity -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080407/96530520/attachment.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 08:52:17 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:22:17 -0230 Subject: [War] Russia: "Always the Quiet Ones" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804080552u4211799fm77dfe3daf60adc30@mail.gmail.com> "Always the Quiet Ones" Defence Minister Yoselev Russian Federation 11 March 2014 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Yoselev was a very stern man. During his military career people described him as a perfect stereotype for a Red Army General; cold, emotionless, ruthless and demanding perfect performance and efficiency from everyone. It was exactly that type of tenacity that had convinced President Nemerenko to make the former Chief of the General Staff the new Defence Minister when Dimitri Lentulov had stepped aside for health reasons. To carry out the extensive military reforms planned by the Nemerenko administration, a hard hand would be required. It was a position that agreed with Yoselev. Finally he had the power to make the changes he had so desperately wanted for the armed forces. Somewhat to his chagrin, Nemerenko had made Yoselev give up his military rank and become 'suit.' He was not the first civilian defence minister in recent history but it was still a minority, with the majority since Stalin being uniformed officers. It was a small price to pay. "So the Canadians are joining the nuclear club, eh?" said Yoselev as he looked over the GRU report detailing the recent military activities of the United States' younger brother. An arms build up on the scale being proposed by Ottawa would certainly earn the scrutiny of any military intelligence agency, especially since the Canadians shared an attic with Russia. "A little bit of a exaggeration, Comrade Minister," replied General Amir Rezakaev with one of those charmingly false smiles the new General Staff chief could produce on command. "The Canadians are saying that they are committed to never acquire nuclear arms, and that their acquisition of nuclear attack subs is purely meant for defensive purposes." "Defence against us," added in Yoselev. Who else would they need nuclear weapons to defend against? China maybe, but it was Russia that was competing with the Canadians for supremacy in the Arctic. "We have no reason to think this is a sign of hostility on the part of Canada," noted Rezakaev. "There's still a lot of distrust of us out there because of everything that Putin did and we *have* gone a little too far into Canadian territorial waters with our own nuclear boats." There was something about Rezakaev that Yoselev didn't like. The former commander of the Far East Military district was capable and competent, no denying that, but he had a 'boyish charm' that rubbed Yoselev the wrong way. That and he was Kazkah by birth and the son of a Muslim, though maintained he was an atheist like most Russians, did not sit well with the Defence Minister. "No matter how polite or docile a nation may seem, the moment they start make eyes at our Arctic territory they are hostile, General Rezakaev," said Yoselev sternly. Rezakaev simply smiled back pleasantly. "Well, regardless it will take time for the acquisition of such advanced weapons such as Virginia-class submarines to be approved by Congress. That and the heightened cost that the Americans are asking will have to be approved by the Canadian House of Commons will take time as well. Admiral Jorganov would be able to give you a more accurate assessment, but I would guess at least a year before all the political wrangling allows the deal to go ahead and at least another five before General Dynamics can complete the order. By the way, how is production of the Yasen-class proceeding?" The Yasen-class SSNs, also know as Project 885 or 'Graney-class' among the NATO nations was the newest Russian nuclear attack sub design. "Three ships fully operational, a fourth entering sea trials in a few months, and the hulls have been laid down for the remaining three," replied the Defence Minister. "Seven to Canada's three," mused Rezakaev. "I think numbers are in our favour." "Yes," replied Yoselev. "Unless the Americans should decide that maybe, just maybe, they might, oh, I don't know, honor the *mutual defence treaty* they have with the Canadians in the event that we every went to war. It is the US Navy that has the largest arsenal of nuclear attack subs in the world, right? Either them or Sweden. Sometimes I get confused." Rezakaev merely shrugged and maintained that sly little smile. Yoselev felt like smashing a bottle of Vodka over the man's head but decided such a move might be unprofessional. "This thing in North Korea is going to be eating up a lot of the President's time, but if everything blows over after Vladivostok I'm going to ask the President to have a chat with Washington about this." "If you say so, Comrade Minister," nodded General Rezakaev. He was a solider; he did not make policy, he carried it out. "That's all I really have to discuss at the moment." Yoselev dismissed him with a wave. "Go, keep me updated if there is anything new to report. And Rezakaev?" "Yes Comrade Minister?" "Make sure none of our subs get caught in Canadian waters anymore?" "Of course Comrade Minister." --- Actions: 1) Russia is a bit concerned over Canada trying to acquire nuclear attack submarines but will hold its tongue for the moment 2) Russia will avoid sending subs into Canadian Northern territorial waters, for the moment. Not that we ever did before, because we didn't. *cough* From dylandv at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 00:33:06 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:33:06 -0700 Subject: [War] Canada: Big Ideas Message-ID: <763946e70804082133q46c7605bqcf9d9fa3d6266dc7@mail.gmail.com> 'Big Ideas' March.14/2014 Prime Minister James McColl Canada ------------- The Harper government had never lived up to its promises in general, and that included their promise of developing Arctic and general infrastructure. The new McColl liberals were determined to rectify that. The PM had scheduled a meeting in one of the conference rooms in the Centre Block of the Finance, Public Works, Defense, Transportation, and Northern Economic Development Ministers, as well as the respective heads of the Defense Staff. Everyone sat down at their seats, tea was served, and they all got down to business. McColl began. "Good to see you all again." Nods around the table. "To go hand in hand with our CAF Modernization Initiative that we announced two days ago, the time has come to begin developing our Arctic. There will be, of course, environmental groups and the other usual detractors, but I think this project will go over well with Canadians. People see the need to do this, not only because of the security benefits for the far north, but also because of the social and economic benefits. The last century has seen the southern part of the country develop exponentially, with the relative exclusion of the north. This is why we created the new position of Northern Economic Development as a part of the cabinet." "Miss Dion, if you would please take it away." McColl smiled. "Sure thing. Part of the reason our northern territories are so sparsely populated is because of the climate, but the other part is that no real effort has been put into development. That is why I am here. The reason why the military brass are here," and she said that with an amicable glance to Girard, "is because military and security infrastructure is often the primary reason development begins in a region. We have a plan that will be implemented over the next few years that will effectively change the far north." "First of all, the new naval acquisitions are going to need a base. We want to build a naval station in either Iqualuit or to the north of Inuvik. We like these two locations because Iqualuit has an airport and a small harbour already, while Inuvik has the Dempster Highway. It wouldn't take much to continue the highway north from the town. We want to make sure that any military presence we establish be accompanied by substantial economic benefits for the locals." "We also want to create an air force and infantry base by expanding our current complex in Yellowknife, which we would rename CFB Yellowknife, from the current CFNA Yellowknife. There is also a proposal to create a Northern Warfare Training Centre, similar to what we have at Gagetown, but for northern and winter warfare. It would be used by all the services. Girard has told me the armed forces would like to base 3,000 regular troops with room for volunteer reservists there year round, with rotations occurring every four months." "To supply this, we would like to build a paved highway with special engineering practices we've developed for the permafrost. Rail would also work, and preferably we would do both. There is an existing line from Edmonton north to Hay River, and we'd like to extend that around the lake to Yellowknife. There is also an existing line to Fort McMurray, which is where the oil sands developments are (taking place). That could be extended north to Fort Chipewyan, Fort Smith, and then on to Hay River. That would bring a lot of economic activity into the region, revitalize its economy, and expand its population. Another rail line extends north through the BC Cariboo region to Fort Nelson, we think extending that line into Whitehorse would do a world of good for the Yukon. As well as the construction, the influx of people and goods would do a lot to make Whitehorse and Yellowknife major northern centres, which would thus encourage development of the territories as a whole." "Thanks, Louise. Now, there is another issue I'd like to discuss with you all. That is a national high-speed rail network. Any thoughts?" It turned out they were all highly in favour, although wary of the potentially prohibitive costs. Public Works Minister Perrin Gassou chose that moment to chuckle. "It will probably cost more than $100 billion to connect all the major cities. That being said, I think it's an excellent idea. We should be encouraging rail travel to get more vehicles off the roads. We should learn from Europe; they have always encouraged mass transit and rail travel over vehicles. I think we would do well to learn from that and get people taking the train more. We would start with the Edmonton-Calgary corridor and the Windsor-London-Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal-Quebec City route. Once we get those running smoothly, we could put routes extending from Calgary to Vancouver and Regina, and from Edmonton to Saskatoon and then on to Regina. Once that's complete we would connect the west and east via Winnipeg and put a line through New Brunswick to Halifax." "Whoa, now that's ambition if I've ever heard it. What about Victoria and St. John's? I know they're on islands, but eventually we will need to connect them to rest of the country. I remember there was a proposal to build the CPR through the BC interior, down the Bute Inlet and then across the various Upper Gulf Islands and then down the east coast of Vancouver Island to Victoria. That would have ensured Victoria's position as a major Pacific port, but Vancouver was chosen because it was cheaper. We could win a lot of votes on the west coast. Victoria is not an insignificant city anymore, there are 10 ridings on Vancouver Island now, and the population is growing rapidly. And we now have the technology to make that a feasible plan. Any ideas for St. John's?" Transportation Minister Sidney Crompton was MP for Victoria-Centre, so he had a lot to gain from that idea, but it was still a good one nonetheless. "Hmmm, good call on that, though I'm assuming you were talking conventional rail for the Victoria route? I don't think even now we could put a high speed route through there. Getting it to Vancouver will be bad enough." McColl had that look so many politicians get when they conspire for votes. "Yea, sorry I didn't clarify that. The route would have to connect via the BC interior, probably through Prince George." "No problem." The PM looked disappointed at what he was thinking, and then decided to voice his thoughts. "Honestly, I don't see how St.John's could be connected to the mainland. The Straight of Belle Isle is just too wide, not to mention the sea-ice, and extreme currents." "At any rate, could VIA Rail run such an operation? We would do everything through them, so we would need to make sure that they are up to par for it. However, I am optimistic. The Commons will be happy about this, as all the provinces stand to gain except for PEI and Newfoundland, which are not so important anymore. Hopefully the provinces will be happy about this too. We should encourage all of them to work together on this project. On that note, we need a name, and looking at this dossier here, it seems the budget would be $96 billion spread over 15 years starting next fiscal year. Can we make that work Eric?" The Finance Minister had been pretty quiet throughout, but he piped up now. "Yes we can, I've made room by shuffling a number of things to side; we will be able to pay for this at the rate of $6.4billion per year with no problems. Just don't ask for any new major spending initiatives this year, or I might bludgeon you." He grinned. Everyone had a good laugh, and then Crompton said, "I've just thought of a good name, the 'High Speed Rail and Infrastructure Initiative'. "Haha, so be it, the HSRII, not bad, could be better. I propose for the northern project that we call it the 'Northern Economic Development Initiative'. Heh, needee. The pundits will start thinking that all that ever comes out of Ottawa anymore are initiatives and equalization payments." More good laughs courtesy of Gassou. "Great work everyone. Let's start drafting the proposals, enlisting provincial help and getting things rolling. We should have no problem with the Spring Budget this year, seeing as we have a solid majority." All of them filed out except for Crompton. He turned to McColl, "The Americans will want in on the project. I bet you $50 they want to connect our system to theirs by the time of the next federal election." James grinned, "Done Sidney, you've got yourself a bet. We'll deal with them when the time comes." 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For Allah, for communism, for the environment or whatever bizarre ideology people like that followed. Armed guards at every corner, no cars near the building itself save for Army vehicles and the cars of the invited delegates, and a three kilometer no-fly zone. Denemetov had spuriously suggested the Vladivostok Conference might be Nemerenko's ticket to a top spot in the history books. The man who prevented the Second Cold War. He knew she had been joking, of course, but even that rubbed him the wrong way. He wasn't doing this for himself, for some sort of legacy. He was doing this because war was bad for business. War was bad for Russia. Especially a war, covert or overt, between China and the United States. Pragmatism. Always pragmatism. Two guards pushed open the double wooden doors of the opulent conference room, a releic of the Romanov era that had a certain decadence that suited the Soviets, with crisp salutes as Denemetov lead the delegates into the room with the utmost courtesy. There was no media, no photographers or microphones. The sensitivity of the talks and the security demands of the involved governments prevented that. Besides, the media was always a hinder in situations like this. The news would get what they needed to know after the fact. "Assembled leaders, honored guests," said the Russian President once everyone had been seated and the doors closed by the guards. Earpieces had been provided for each delegate which were connected to a hardwire audio system on the other end of which were a slew of SVR translators. Nemerenko spoke in Russian for political reason. Only Sato spoke Japanese and speaking English might be interpreted as a slight by Hong, favoritism towards the Americans. "I thank you all for attending this conference here in Vladivostok, capital of the Russian Far East. It is unfortunate that we must meet under the circumstances that we do, but it is my belief we can leave this conference with a better understanding of our respective nations at the conclusion. "Let me state the objectives of this conference: stability in the Far East, stability in North Korea and a normalization of relations between the United States of America and the People's Republic of China. How and when we come to realize these objectives is not for me to say, but for this council of nations to decide. With that, I would invite each one of you to give an opening statement outlining the position of your government. We will go by alphabetical order, starting with the People's Republic of China." President Williams had come in low-profile: VC-25 to Elmendorf, followed by a Cessna Citation to Vladivostok. In his memory, as he looked out the window as the plane came in for a landing, he had mused over how unlikely this would have been even 15 years before. Vladivostok had, until 1992, been a closed city. It was still the Russian Pearl Harbor...Just, colder. Now, he was seated in the conference hall, and he subtly turned his earpiece on as President Hong began to speak. The interpreters were good, but he preferred to do it himself if he could. Quietly, he took notes for review later, listening intently to Hong...Well, her translator, but anyway. Sato listened to the his translator and not for the first time since taking office wished he had learned Mandarin. His arrival had been wonderfully low key, he flew in by a small military VIP transport plane and was pleased to see there were no ceremonies or cameras waiting as he descended the gang way. Simply an official from the Russian government who shook his hand and rode with him to the summit site. If only more summits were like this things might actually get done. Xia had found it funny that, given her country's name was technically 'People's Republic of China' that she, and not Prime Minister Sato, was beginning, but figured Nemerenko had used the shortened versions either to specifically put China first, or simply to facilitate discussion. Whichever, she doubted there would be much in the way of progress made here. "Thank you President Nemerenko for the honor of the invitation, and I would like to personally thank the respective representatives from each nation for coming. The position of China has been iterated and reiterated repeatedly since the first evidence of American involvement in North Korea became available. Stability in Asia is, and of right ought to be of paramount concern at this conference. It was the reason behind Chinese intervention in North Korea, and is the reason we are turning over control of operations on the northern half of the peninsula slowly but surely to a still organizing North Korean Army. When the time is right, China will happily withdraw her forces from the peninsula all together if so requested from it's legitimate government..." she stopped here and noticed everyone looking around at their translators. With an inward chuckle she decided just to go with English, switching from a native Mandarin to a clean Californian non-accent in less time than it took to snap your fingers. "As I was saying, China is a firm believer in the international principle of sovereignty, and it was a sober decision to make with regards to Korean intervention... but I could not watch more than twenty-million kill themselves and each other in a Civil War knowing that I had at my disposal the capability to prevent it. This takes us to the issue of stability in North Korea... in the one year that Chinese forces have been in country, a formal governmental body has been created, peace made between rival war lords, and the rule of law instituted, and elections are being planned for January to finalize a North Korean governing Constitution and solidify a permanent government. The NKA and it's other armed forces are rising in strength and numbers, and massive humanitarian aid projects unlike any the world has ever seen are ongoing to provide the nation with the capacity to stand on it's own. Key infrastructure is being repaired, and capitalist markets established. I bring all this up to make it clear what exactly the American government put at risk simply to kill brave PLA soldiers. By giving those orders Mister President..." at this point she stared directly at Williams. "You've done far more than take the lives of innocent men tasked with bringing peace to North Korea. You've done far more than eliminate family lines for several families, but by actively supporting and organizing an illegal resistance you've spat in the face of International Law, and put at risk the very achievements you 'claim' to be in support of. As we speak, the American Navy is conducting 'drills' off Chinese soil, and selling arms to a rogue province which is 'still' under Chinese autonomy. Despite repeated reassurances that your captured spies will receive a fair trial and be treated humanely, in your ignorant righteousness you've moved to embargo Chinese goods necessary to your own people, and have pushed this world to the brink of economic disaster. And then, rather than apologize and correct these 'glaring' misjudgments in policy, you opt to go on a world wide propaganda campaign based on lies and insinuation. Nations have gone to war for far less grievous actions Mister President, and I strongly urge you to reconsider making any 'demands' of China." She then turned her attention back to addressing the room. "The following are pre-conditions for a 'normalization' of relations with the United States. One, President Williams himself will make a public apology to the world for all the outlined failures of his policy, and accept full responsibility for their consequences. Two, the baseless accusations raised at the World Trade Organization are to be dropped. Three, the United States will begin negotiations with North Korea to formally recognize it's existence as an independent, sovereign nation in the form of a treaty ratified accordingly. Four, the United States will recall 'all' of it's forces currently operating off the shores of the Province of Taiwan and immediately issue via executive decree or whatever such means are available, an apology for violating Chinese territorial sovereignty. Five, any agents of the Chinese government, currently in American custody, will be released. Likewise China will reciprocate. Six, the United States will agree and commit to negotiations regarding a non- aggression treaty with the People's Republic. Seven, the idiotic embargo unlawfully placed on Chinese goods be rescinded immediately. Eight, the United States will immediately reimburse the People's Republic for all costs relating to the benefits to be paid out, and burial of, those troops confirmed killed in action as a direct result of it's unlawful actions in North Korea. Nine, the United States will immediately cease all covert operations in Asia, period. And Ten, the United States will agree in principle that it's forward deployment of troops in Asia 'should' be a temporary measure aimed at allowing the nations of Asia to build their own, independent, means of defense... and that upon determination that the nations where American troops 'are' deployed are sufficiently capable of defending themselves as made by the United Nations General Assembly, will withdraw these forces." Nemerenko nodded in acknowledgment of Hong's statement. Harsh demands from China, a predictable outcome given the circumstances. He just hoped there wouldn't be any Khrushchev-like antics from anyone. It would be bad forum to bang one's shoe on such a lovely table. "Thank you President Hong. I would next like to invite Prime Minister Sato to speak." Sato rose and bowed a deep respectful bow to the Russian President. "Thank you," he said in English as he put on his glasses and took a glance at his index cards on which his notes were on, shook his head slightly and put them in his pocket. He left the glasses on though, they made him look somewhat grandfatherly, which was fitting he was the oldest man in the room. "Thank you President Nemerenko," he said in slightly accented English. "I sit here and look around the table and see the 'usual suspects' of Asian instability. Over the last century or so, we have all warred against one another and suffered for it. Now we stand again on the verge of a new war, perhaps a cold one, but a war all the same, and I hope we can find the wisdom today to avert that. "Japan is not innocent in these recent events, we have done our part out of fear of our old enemies, to tear down what was in the end a positive change because we did not trust those who were behind it. For that, Japan begs forgiveness. However, tainted as we may be by deception and fear, Japan's position is that we must set aside our distrust of one another and embrace compromise or we shall find ourselves locked in the same dance, that has held us for over a century, and as usual, when the song ends, we shall find ourselves weaker for it. I hope that we are not alone in this desire. "So while Japan has no specific objectives at this meeting but that we resolve this matter and come away from it at peace, we do put forward as a suggestion, that all members of this summit put their names to a non-aggression treaty that will at the very least stop us from pursuing this matter into the insanity of open war. I thank you all." He bowed deeply to the assembled leaders and then sat down putting his glasses away in his coat pocket as he did. "Thank you Prime Minister," said Nemerenko. Sato's goals were not all that dissimilar from Nemerenko's; stability in the Far East and an end to the constant squabbling between the same nations over and over. The idea of a non-aggression pact between China and the United States seemed a bit far-fetched to the Russian leader, but you never knew. "I would now invite the representative from North Korea to speak." "Thank you Mister President." The North Korean leader, fairly youthful but with subtle scars of a veteran of the NKA, smiled to the assembled leaders. "Let me begin by first saying I deeply appreciate, and admire, all gathered here to discuss the future of my nation. I am happy to see the world community take such an interest in us finally, and hope that this may be the start of a new page in North Korean history. One of international openness. This being said, your concerns are needless. Since the Civil War has ended, law and order has been established. Once empty streets are now brimming with traffic, bike traffic mainly, but traffic." He smiled. "Stores are opening, and for once North Koreans have the basic frame work of an economy. We have a military and police force being re-trained in new, fantastic ways to provide for the common security, and hospitals, schools, universities, and government services are being restored. I am not naive enough to believe that my words will sway anyone here, as it seems rather obvious that your decisions regarding my people's fate have already been made. However the fact remains that without the intervention of China, the Civil War would have caused catastrophic problems. Imagine trails of millions of refugees swarming across the Yalu, or even the DMZ? Would either China, or South Korea, have the capacity to care for so many newcomers in their condition? By taking a pre-emptive action, China has guarded against this possibility. My people now receive what they need, and dare I say what they want, on their own soil. The insurgency as it stands, were it not for well-meaning but misguided American intervention, would be ended by now. it is composed mainly of criminals and out laws bent on their own thirst for power, rather than working in the framework of the transitional government now established. I respect the American Administration's desire to see positive improvements in North Korea, and welcome the American government to being an open partner in the distribution of economic and humanitarian aid. During the border crisis, it was American ships working in conjunction with Chinese soldiers and North Korean agents that alleviated one of the greatest disasters ever faced by man kind... that is the kind of results I would like to see those here channel their collective resources towards. I will add before turning the floor over, that it is the opinion of my government that Chinese support will be needed for the immediate future. There is a lot of work that must be done, and I trust President Hong when she says Chinese troops will leave when the mission is complete. I do not intend to ask for much, simply that my people be given the chance to develop, free of 'hostile' international intervention, into a flourishing member of the international community." Moderate words from the North Korean representative. Was he a Chinese puppet? Nemerenko would wait and see before casting his final judgement. "I thank the North Korean representative. President Lee, I believe it is now your turn to speak." - Hide quoted text - President Lee of the Republic of Korea, stony faced, whether out of determination or a stomach ailment, began to speak. "I would like to thank President Nemerenko for convening and hosting this summit in an attempt to head off a most urgent and dangerous crisis. It is the hope of my government that a peaceful arrangement may be reached. "The honorable President of the People's Republic of China has, as is her nation's right, stated her stance. The Republic of Korea can not, however, agree with either her interpretation of events or with her demands of my government's ally, the United States of America. "She states that the People's Republic could not sit by and watch the populace of the northern Korean peninsula destroy itself in a civil war. Such a statement is fundamentally flawed. And while I can not doubt that the Chinese government made a most serious and 'sober' decision to *invade* the northern Korean peninsula, such a decision was made not only in contravention to international law, but also I am quite certain with less than admirable intentions. "As to the latter, though the so-called Democratic People's Republic of Korea was no doubt a troublesome regime to all her neighbors from time to time, there is no doubt in the minds of the government and people of the Republic of Korea that from the Chinese perspective the *existence* of North Korea was and is seen as a buffer and client state, one of the few the Chinese could claim and, thanks to their invasion, can continue to claim with a high degree of truth. The existence of North Korea is I am sure a strategic and political imperative for the Chinese government. Moral decency and compassion do not enter into this analysis. "Moreover, despite your attempts to portray American actions in northern Korea as spitting in the face of international law, it is the Chinese government, more than all others who have willfully and wantonly disregarded international law. First and foremost, no matter what the conditions, the tragedy, or the horror which may or may not exist in any given state, that state's sovereignty may not be abrogated on the whim or decision, no matter how compassionate, of any other state. Such internal disorder may only be subject to intervention by international forces when and only when such disorder has been determined to be a threat to the peace between nations, and that such a threat has been recognized as such by the United Nations. And, having made such a determination, it is up to the United Nations to organize and command such measures as are thought to be necessary to ensure that international peace and stability can be maintained, if necessary by intervention in the affairs of a sovereign state. "Certainly this latest intervention by the People's Republic of China had no such authorization. The Chinese government, so often and so outspokenly in the past an opponent of intervention in the internal affairs of other states, such as the recent case of the Darfur crisis in the Sudan, has turned completely to a willingness to violate the sovereignty of a state because it suits its own purposes and agenda, whatever these may be. The difference between China's rhetoric and its actions, clear enough already in the past, is now stark. "Having invaded Korea, the Chinese government has decided that it, and it alone, has the right to determine northern Korea's future. It has excluded all others from the reconstruction process, both physical and legal, of the north excepting those states willing to pass no judgement, and to not interfere, on the actions of the Chinese government and the course that the Chinese government, and the Chinese government alone, has decided for northern Korea. The Chinese government has not only invaded northern Korea, it has illegally established a security presence counter to the interest of the Korean people, and with no international legal standing. "Indeed, it has prevented the United Nations Command in Korea, established under United Nation Security Council Resolution 84 in 1950, a resolution still in force, from exercising its mandate to restore peace and security in Korea, following the unlawful aggression of those in control of northern Korea at that time. This resolution, indeed, followed United Nation Security Council Resolution 82 which expressed the never refuted interest of the United Nations to restore the unity of the Korean state, and that the Republic of Korea was, to the extent of the United Nations' ability to determine, the *only* lawful government in and of Korea. That the so-called Democratic People's Republic of Korea was, in light and in spite of this, allowed to exist owes not to any concession by my government, but to unalterable realities on the ground. "The intervention of vast numbers of Chinese military forces in northern Korea also contravenes the armistice ending the war between the so-called Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the United Nations Command in Korea. The armistice provided that neither side would be allowed to quickly send troops into the Korean peninsula. While the People's Republic of China technically has or had no official involvement in said conflict, these forces were certainly not troops of either the forces of northern Korea or of the Army of the Republic of Korea, and were not and are not under the command of the United Nations Command in Korea, which by standing United Nation resolutions is under United States leadership. Thus, as neither a force welcome to either the Republic of Korea or, as part of or in conjunction to, the United Nations Command in Korea, it can only be inferred that the Chinese army's intervention was an intervention on the behalf of the so-called Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Additionally, while the People's Republic of China never had any *official* interest or stake in the "Korean War", it is beyond doubt that many of the People's Republic's citizens fought on the side of the forces of northern Korea, though perhaps not in any manner which could be incontestably determined to be officially sanctioned by the government of the People's Republic of China, though the possibility remains. "Furthermore, Madam President, you claim that the American activities in northern Korea, of which my government has no direct involvement, are in and of themselves a great tragedy, and threaten your government's attempts to build a paradise for the "grateful" people of northern Korea. I would point out that no insurgency can exist without great dissent from the authorities that the insurgency is attempting to overthrow. The provision of supplies or weapons to such insurgents might make their work easier, but it does not in and of itself make their work. If citizens of northern Korea are striking out at your forces, it is not because they have been cajoled into doing so, it is because they will it. It is because they desire it. It is because they *wish* to resist your army of occupation that they have gladly accepted the freely offered assistance of the United States of America. Even if the United States were to cease all involvement, Chinese soldiers would die because oppressed Koreans, finding themselves in an occupied northern Korea, would find a way to kill them. "I would here give pause to the President of the People's Republic of China. For if China would seek to refute the Republic of Korea's claim to be the rightful government of northern Korea, citing perhaps the lack of effective control over said territory over the past few decades despite the maintenance of said claims, how could the world look on China's own claims with regard to the island of Taiwan. Korea's disunity is a historical artifact of the Cold War, and the Republic of Korea has ever and always looked forward to the day when Korea and more importantly the Korean people would cease to be divided, that the forced and intolerable disunion forced upon Korea by outside forces should end. All of my government's, and the governments' of my predecessors, actions with regard to the so-called Democratic People's Republic of Korea were made with a view towards eventually reestablishing the historical and popular unity of the Korean people, whether the tactics employed were accommodating or unaccommodating. "Madam President, you are at the moment in a position of might. But might does not make right, and you are certainly not in the right. You have invaded and occupied my nation with a view towards making yet another client state in the territory of the Republic of Korea. My government, and for almost the past seventy years, has been forced to accept the disunion of our country. We can perhaps wait longer still, but we will not condone or cooperate in acts, proposals, or threats which extend the period of disunion of my nation." Williams listened to the statements attentively, taking notes to lock his memory. *Thank you, President Lee. Good to know I have -some- friends. Wish I could have hid the bags under my eyes, though. Thank God the press isn't around.* Speaking into his microphone in English, he didn't bother to do more than glance at his notes. "As with my counterparts, I offer my thanks to President Nemerenko for inviting all of us to this summit. "This is decidedly not the occasion or circumstances under which I would prefer to be in Vladivostok, but today is not about the city in which we sit. "Much of what President Lee said had merit. In fact, this is a key point to many Americans. This situation, inevitably, brings echoes of iraq." "Today is not about Iraq, a war I carry a round from under my skin. I did not agree with it; I thought it was badly timed and badly planned. With the exception of courageous countries such as the Republic of Korea, most of the world refused to help in any way, in peace or war - speaking as the soldier I was then, I thought the hint should have been obvious when our allies were generally believing it to be a bad idea. "Speaking as the President I am now, I cannot help but note the irony. Almost despite itself, Iraq turned out to be at least minimally successful. "Was it a mistake to go in, though? Yes. We pulled out a semblance of a victory, but going in was a mistake. We won by valor and no small amount of luck. Has the United States rightly been reminded of it, again and again, by friends and rivals alike? Yes, though perhaps rather redundantly by now. And yet, I'd like to think that for nations as well as individuals, mistakes can be redeemed. That even those who have erred can find redemption. "But enough about Iraq. "Madam President, we both are parents. My son is rather too young as of yet, but how often did you tell yours 'two wrongs don't make a right'? Often, I bet. "And yet, that is what you claim. I will not. My reaction to your intervention was considered through the fog of misinformation, the crushing pressure of domestic audiences to do *something*. "I have killed, Madam President. I have lost friends, brothers really, to war. It has made me deaf to protestations of innocence from politicians such as us. "Nobody in this room is innocent. The first tank to start its engines, the first soldier to board a vehicle, the first unit to cross the Line of Departure. That is when we all failed. The blood of every person to have died in the months since...My hands are bathed in it. President Hong, your hands are bathed in it. The hands of every person in this room is bathed in the blood of those who have died to Chinese or Korean bullets. "Others may bring forth legal arguments. I will not. I cannot. For when the first man under my command died in combat in Iraq, to a sniper a day before we were supposed to go home, I escorted his remains home. I helped to bury his casket. "Everyone in this room killed this past year. Through action or inaction. To then presume to bargain as though lives are commodities in a Baghdad souk does not make us statesmanlike; It makes us monsters. "For all these reasons, for the many reasons enumerated by my counterpart from the Republic of Korea, I cannot accept the demands of the Chinese side. "My counteroffer is simple: Status Quo Ante. Remove foreign persons between the Yalu and the DMZ. Release all prisoners to their homelands. A five-power authority will prepare for a North Korean plebiscite with two options: Reunion with the South, or independence and neutrality. China will be able to walk the long, hard road of redemption, as we have. "And, I pray, the guns will fall silent. I have seen enough of war." And now the conch passed full circle, back into the hands of Nemerenko. He gave careful consideration to what he was going to say. No one was going to leave here with everything they wanted, that much was for sure. Even Russia and Japan, who merely wanted regional stability and had no immediate military or territorial objectives, would be satisfied. Of that much he was sure. "Before I begin, I will emphasize that I am merely a moderator and no way an arbiter," said Nemerenko. "The truth of this situation is that no state present can be forced to do anything. Save by force of arms, but that is a scenario no one at this table wants. To begin, President Williams," he turned to face the American leader. "Whatever your reasons, whatever China may or may not be responsible for, the actions taken by the CIA are unacceptable. What you have done is a reckless and irresponsible agitation of a dangerous situation. China has violated no international law by arresting your operatives, while you have violated the principles of state sovereignty by dispatching them to begin with. The reality is that if you did not desire your men to face a Chinese firing squad or prison term, you should not have dispatched them to arm insurgents fighting the PLA. Your meddling has made this situation worse, and compromised the legitimacy of American involvement in any resolution." He then turned to regard Hong. "President Hong, and to your North Korean college, I must find fault with any assertion that the insurgency in North Korea is purely an American product. Not that the actions of the United States have not prolonged the insurgency, they have. But it is my opinion that the critical factor driving North Korean citizens to fight the PLA is the exceedingly poor behavior of the Chinese military in regards to its treatment of the North Korean populace. That these actions are not ordered or sanctioned by you, President Hong, is immaterial. Your government is responsible for the actions of its soldiers. And your soldiers have behaved like animals. You have promised resolution to this yet the latest reports from both the world media and our own respective intelligence agencies-" he cast a look around the table to all others present, "indicates that human rights education among your troops is still a totally foreign concept. China may have prevented a bloody civil war that could have killed many millions. Still immaterial. To sit here and say that China is the Saviour of North Korea and the rest of the world should just mind its own business while your men brutalize its population as we speak now in this very room compromises your legitimacy as well." He leaned back and folded his hands on the table, letting the two leaders absorb what he had just said. Both were proud, stubborn, maybe even a bit paranoid. And their relationship with Russia was complex. Both saw Russia as a potential ally, source of resources for their hungry economies, and both also saw Russia as an potential enemy. That would certainly color their reaction. "The opinion I offer is as follows: one, the United States of America must affirm that it will no longer conduct any covert actions aimed at arming insurgent groups in North Korea or take any other action that will sow chaos and instability in North Korea, and furthermore agree to take no punitive actions against China for the arrest of the two CIA operatives arrested by Chinese authorities. Two, the People's Republic of China should accept a UN-sanctioned monitoring group attached to the regional PLA command in North Korea to observe the activities of Chinese forces and ensure no further human rights violations are carried out by Chinese soldiers." Nemerenko paused once again to let the translators work and for the leaders to think. "I would invite Japan and South Korea to voice their views before we here the viewpoints of America, China and North Korea." --- End of Part I From john.penta at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 17:21:06 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:21:06 -0400 Subject: [War] US: "Taming the Procurement Beast" Message-ID: "Taming the Procurement Beast" 11 March 2014 Pres. John Williams USA ========================= Procurement had always been one of John Williams's pet issues during his legislative (and now executive) service. Well, okay. Maybe that was the wrong phrase. Some called it a passion. Some, an obsession. Some called it the wonkiest focus of a President in years. He had to agree with the last; it was rather wonky. But even his critics generally acknowledged honorable motives. He did try to make the system better. Sometimes it just...didn't survive first contact. But it was a credit to...persistence? Insanity? Whatever...Fact was, it was an unending project. It was how government spent a large chunk of taxpayer dollars; buying stuff, designing stuff, building stuff. Thus the following memo, from the POTUS to all acquisition authorities in the DOD, since they were the worst offenders. --- Subject: Some guidelines on the procurement process (Or "Taming the beast") We've done a lot to reform the procurement system of the DOD, but not enough. Namely, there seems to be a chronic inability on the part of procurement authorities to make up their mind. So I'm going to force the issue. Effective now, this is how DOD will handle requirements. One: By the start of SDD, you will have definitive requirements set. The system to exit SDD must meet those requirements. Milestone review authorities get one shot, -one- shot, to modify requirements during SDD without the approval of the Defense Acquisition Board, which will rarely be granted. Yeah, unless you want to get slow-roasted, *decide what you want*. Two: No more than three Engineering Change Orders per project without DOD approval. NAVSHIPS, this includes you. We noticed. Three: Requirements should be no more specific than absolutely required. Ship construction and other major projects are horrible here, and should be wary of the habit. Don't specify the bolts to use, specify what the system the bolts hold in should do. Four: Design to the *current* SOTA. Just allow for line replacement as the SOTA advances. Five: Tell the truth. It shouldn't have to be mentioned, but the constant overoptimism and promising more than can be delivered is infuriating. People will lose their jobs if this keeps up. If Congress doesn't like reality, take a stand: They have to accept reality. There will be Presidential support for that...But not for the usual lies. Any questions, ask. --- Such was how reform happened. Slow, gentle nudges mixed with hard smacks. --- Actions: 1. New regime at DOD, yup. To encourage the rest of government. 2. Rule 1: Make Up Your Goddamn Mind. Seriously. 3. Rule 2: See rule 1. 4. Rule 3: Quit overspecifying. 5. Rule 4: You do not have the money to drive SOTA anymore. Build to current SOTA, leave room to upgrade. 6. Rule 5: Tell the truth, even when it hurts. Or go home. From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 11:08:51 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:38:51 -0230 Subject: [War] Drinking in Congress Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804180808g24b36b89kc2e6e80062128d9a@mail.gmail.com> This may sound like a strange question, but can you drink in Congress? From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 13:26:22 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:56:22 -0230 Subject: [War] The Korea Six: "The Vladivostok Conference- Part II" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804181026j6929429bt78a83fdf0830644a@mail.gmail.com> "The Vladivostok Conference- Part II" Assembled Leaders of the Korea Six 15 March 2014 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=- Sato had listened quietly to the words of his his fellows around this table showing no reaction to any of their words but watching the reactions of others. He found himself amused as usual. Everyone here, with the possible exception of himself and their host, thought they were right. However it seemed by the word and reactions of others that a common understanding was not being reached. He sighed inwardly as he stood to speak and reminded himself, his objective here today was simply that all the involved parties attended the Russian summit. The rest, he told himself, would come in time. "I agree with President Nemerenko on this matter," Sato announced. "However, I would like to add that Japan would like assurances of non-aggression between the Republic of Korea and China, so that we are simply back here in a month, discussing a new crisis. That said, there is one observation I would like to make before I hand over the floor to my Korean colleague. We have no mutually agreed upon understanding of North Korea's status and I think that is something we must come to to form a lasting peace. I do not propose we settle this contentious issue now, but, I put it forward as something to think about." With that, Sato sat back down again. Curious about what the others would say. "Thank you Prime Minister," said Nemerenko. Japan could be useful as an leg of moderate thinking to stand upon, thought Nemerenko to himself. That was something to keep in mind. "President Lee?" President Lee, still stony faced, began his second address to the assembled leaders. "President Nemerenko, my country sincerely respects and appreciates your country's mediation and opinion. However, my government can not countenance or condone any course of action which will in practical effect, if not intended design, consign North Korea to be a puppet of the People's Republic of China, to speak nothing of denying the possibility of the rightful reunion of the Korean peninsula under one free, sovereign government. "As has been stated, the Chinese invasion and occupation of northern Korea is illegal. An unavoidable, and undesirable, fact of the situation on the ground it may be, but accommodated it can not be. If the Chinese government wishes to remedy the illegal standing of it's occupation, the only route is through thorough and complete internationalization of the security and reconstruction of northern Korea. It is not sufficient nor acceptable that the role of the United Nations be one of supervision, it must necessarily be one of command and control. Only then can freedom be guaranteed to northern Korea, including specifically the right of the Korean people to choose, if they so desire, reunification after almost seventy years of enforced disunion. "Madam President, you complain that your troops are being killed by those who you believe are mere puppets of the United States and who I say simply do not want you in our country. If you are that concerned for the blood of your troops, then internationalize the force. If no one else, the Republic of Korea is ever willing and ever ready to come to the assistance of our northern brothers. My government does not seek conflict with your nation, but we *insist* that northern Korea not be a puppet of your government, and as such remain and continue to be sundered from the remainder of the Korean people. My government has no faith, and has never been given any cause to believe, that the Chinese government has any interest in a free northern Korea, nonetheless a reunited Korea. "You have tried to paper over your government's illegal acts with measures of charity designed to appeal to those in the free nations of the world who might be swayed by such a facade. You build roads, and say that they have begun to fill with traffic. Yet where can they go if they are not free? You say that there are now jobs for the people of the north to work. Yet what do they work for if they are not free? You say there are schools to teach the young to live, and hospitals to heal the sick? But what is there to live for if they are not free? "The issues of the conditions in northern Korea, either past or present, are irrelevant to this fundamental imperative. No people can prosper under occupation, no matter how benign. Economic liberty can not survive long without political liberty, and this will never exist in any puppet state created under the auspices of the Chinese government. "Freedom, soveriegn and democratic freedom, can never follow prosperity. No commerce can truly and permanently thrive without a stable and trusted government. Government, liberty, and sovereignty must necessarily *precede* true economic progress, for it is stable and free government which provides the necessary environment for a people to prosper. And it is precisely this which your government can not provide on its own. The Chinese government, by establishing yet another puppet regime in northern Korea, will doom the people there to further decades of misery. "Neither I nor my countrymen can understand what your government thinks it can accomplish, what benefit for either the people of northern Korea or indeed for the government and people of China you think will arise from the present occupation. Your people have paid and will continue to pay in blood and treasure for aims which to the best of my or anyone else outside of China's knowledge are entirely political. What do you seek to accomplish, what hope do the Chinese people see in northern Korea which is worth the blood and embarassment you have and will continue to suffer? "Continued attempts by the Chinese government to dominate and subdue northern Korea will never pay dividends, and will only result in great misery for your country. The only remedy for your transgression of international law and peace, the only route out of the quagmire which you now surely find yourself trapped in, is internationalization." Lee here turned to face the representative from northern Korea directly, looking at him. It was the most he had moved since the beginning of the procedings. "As to the remarks of the gentleman representing the Chinese puppet government of northern Korea, you speak of a security apparatus being trained in 'new, fantastic ways to provide for the common security'. Might I ask if these are the same new and fantastic ways that the Chinese train their own security forces? I should hope not, if recent events in China proper are any evidence of the manner of security that the Chinese security apparatus, if not the Chinese government, chooses. What worth are stores, are goods, hospitals, schools, and services if one is not free to enjoy them as one sees fit. "As one Korean to another, as a man to a long lost brother, you are being tempted with false gifts, gifts which must necessarily turn to dust at the first encounter with difficulty. You ask whether the Republic of Korea would have had the capacity to cope with, and effectively assist in the alleviation of, the suffering in the north should the crisis which the Chinese invasion interrupted had become more acute. I do not know what my nation would have accomplished, but I assure you, I guarantee to you and to all Koreans living north of the De-Militarized Zone that the people and government of the Republic of Korea would have done all within their power to help. Even through the years of the dictatorship of the Kims, the south has been ever hopeful of reunion, even when the cost of such a reunion climbed as the prosperity of our sundered people diverged. You say the price would have been, and even now is and will be, high. I say that the Republic of Korea is willing to pay that price, and to make the sacrifices necessary for our northern brethren." At the end of this, Lee paused to resume his former position and recompose himself. His comments to the north Korean had clearly been deeply felt. If Lee had been a charismatic man, they would have been very moving. Yet, aside from a bit of color in his face, he ramined stony faced throughout. Lee would never have made it in Hollywood. "To these ends, my government makes the following proposal. First, that the responsibility for security and reconstruction in northern Korea be transfered to the command and control of a United Nations force, backed by appropriate resolutions. The possibility, or perhaps probability, that the Chinese government and Chinese security forces may continue to play a key, though no longer controlling, role in northern Korea under the auspices of the United Nations is, of course, open. Should an acceptable and reasonable scheme along these lines be agreed to through the decision making bodies of the United Nations, the Republic of Korea would be more than happy to assist. "Second, that it be agreed, again preferably through the action of the appropriate decision making bodies of the United Nations, that the people of northern Korea should have the free and unfettered choice of the form and makeup of their own government, including specifically the possibility of reunion with the Republic of Korea. The current puppet regime may remain in place, then, only until such time that a United Nations mission has been established in northern Korea which might then begin steps towards this goal in a manner which does not play into the hands of *foreign* powers. "Third, that if appropriate United Nations resolutions are adopted for the formation of a United Nations mission in northern Korea for the purposes as I have proposed, that all parties agree to work in good faith towards the end of the rebellion in northern Korea. Such work might include ending arms shipments and other support towards supporting a violent rebellion, while also including moves towards pushing all members of northern Korean society, particularly including the rebels, towards a reconciliation and the beginning of open, free, and sovereign democratic processes. Such acts may, as parties decide, begin before the appropriate enabling resolutions but should only be seen as required upon the passage and implementation of such resolutions. "Fourth and finally, that the various bilateral issues which have arisen due to complications of events in northern Korea should be resolved by bilateral negotiations." "Thank you Mr. President," said Nemerenko with a nod. It was of no surprise that the South Koreans were unwilling to accept the permanent separation of the two countries. This could complicate matters. "President Hong, we eagerly await your response, followed by the North Korean delegate and finally President Williams after which I will offer another mediative suggestion based upon what has been said. Madam President?" "Rejected." The North Korean leader said flatly as he rose from his seat, casting a venomous glance to the South Korean President. "You should be more honest with the world, you want North Korea for yourself and your imperialist designs are betrayed by your tactless language. Mark my words, if one South Korean soldier crosses the border, I will see you dragged from Seoul in chains." And with that the North Korean delegation moved. Xia sighed. Granted the man was right about the South Koreans, but there were greater things at stake here than 'just' Korea. She had to make a decision... support an ally or continue on with international diplomacy. It was a tough decision, not made any easier by the belligerent language tossed around, particularly from but not exclusively by South Korea. "I must say, the South Korean position is striking for it's ignorance of events in it's own region, and arrogance of it's policy makers. I am afraid I must join my North Korean counterpart in dismissing this conference. Thank you for your time and gracious effort President Nemerenko, I fear it may have been in vain, however." And with that, China followed North Korea's lead. Sato's frown cut deep lines in his face that weren't entirely hidden by his facial hair as he watched the Chinese delegation leave. He looked to Williams, Lee, and Nemerenko. "Someone should try to convince them to stay," he commented. On the American side, President Williams kept his poker face. Negotiating with Afghan tribal elders had taught him *something*, anyway. How to ad-lib when things went to hell. At the moment, though, he was tired and pissed off. "Let them. Four million dead first day of war, for the record. As a bare minimum. Apparently, they don't mind such a high stack of corpses." Nemerenko tried to keep a neutral face as Hong and the North Korean left, but in the end could not help but shoot Williams a somewhat scornful look at the man's inane comment. It seemed that neither side was interested in any sort of reconciliation or compromise. "If they had any true intention of negotiating then they would have stayed. We are not even half an hour into our discussions. To retreat now gives no doubt as to the course of events," Nemerenko offered to Sato. So much for a place in the history books. "I greatly appreciate the attendance of all parties involved here." The reality was that this conference as a disaster, a stillborn mess that had only hardened the resolve of the opposing sides, but he had to give some sort of high-note end. "That we were able to at least sit and talk, if but for a moment, hints at some future progress." Bullshit. The Second Cold War had just officially started in this room. Not to mention a recession, those were always fun. "Thank you for your words, opinions and ears." President Lee stood up woodenly, but the more observant among those still present detected a sadness and a resignation in him. He walked wearily over to President Nemerenko, and offered his hand. "I would like to thank you, Mr. President, for doing as much as you have here today. My country appreciates the fact that you tried to be an honest broker in this den of lions." A distant look appeared in Lee's eyes as he continued to speak. "The Chinese, and perhaps others, will certainly note my harsh words with at least a facade of indignation, and perhaps more truly satisfaction at this result. But I hope that you understand that reunification has been the dream driving my country since the Korean people were divided nearly seventy years ago. There have been disagreements about how to approach the issue, but never a doubt that the Korean people should one day be reunited as one nation and one country. Some may call it imperialism. But it is more base, more guttural than that for us. Given this, I had to try. "I have no doubt now that the Chinese government will do as it pleases in northern Korea. Another regime, beholden to Beijing, will arise. The separation will continue. There might be prosperity of a sort in the north now, but there will be no freedom, and reunification will not occur, not yet. Again, forces beyond the control of those in Korea will hold sway. If the Chinese had been willing, my government would have done much to at last achieve reunification. "It is a disheartening result. There will be much soul searching, but I have no doubt as to the outcome. We have waited for seventy years. If need be, we will wait for many more. Our hope, the hope of the Korean people, will not here perish." At this point, for some reason, the...Israeli national anthem went through POTUS's head as a soundtrack to Lee's words. His face, meanwhile, held a look of concern. "President Lee...What are you thinking?" Then, "President Nemerenko, I must echo the compliments of my fellows. You tried hard here. But it seems that we were dealing with another Mideast: Any concessions would be a defeat, I suppose the Chinese saw it as." Williams looked sad at this. "I have a feeling the Chinese, the North Koreans...-want- a war, the bastards." A sigh, as he reached into a pocket, pulled out a stress ball, and just *squeezed* it. "President Lee, I think we're all out of options. Annoys me that option C has failed, B the Chinese rejected, and A is insane. And that there seems to not be an option D." "A war that my country will have no part of," said Nemerenko, standing. "For either side." He hoped the point was made clear to Williams and Lee. Russia had tried to bring a peaceful end to this. Now all Nemerenko could do was stay out of the line of fire. "It was nice to see you again, Ivan. And you, President Lee, I hope to continue a positive dialogue with your nation." If East Asia still existed in the next few days. He began pacing towards the door, the guards pushing them open and saluting as the President left. "Good luck," he said over his shoulder, some parting words. "You'll need it." --- Actions: 1) The Vladivostok Conference fails, with no progress made. From pbuck11 at aol.com Sun Apr 20 16:37:48 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:37:48 -0600 Subject: [War] World Report volume 4 Message-ID: <480BA99C.5000807@aol.com> AR: World Report - For all actions since Volume 2, advancing the timeline to April 13-18 2014 United Nations Security Council (Permanent Members): United States, United Kingdom, France, China, Russia United Nations Security Council (Non-Permanent Members): Until September, 2007: India, Egypt, Norway, Mexico, Venezuela Until October, 2007: Canada, Chile, Italy, South Africa, Japan Pending UN Security Council Actions: None Pending UN General Assembly Actions: None United Nations Secretariat: No news. ============== Ok here we go another WR, welcome our new Canadaian player, In world news the Vladivastok peace conference has collapsed with the US and CHina accusing each other of breaking treaties, Media pundits have commented on how 'tired and stressed' president williams looked. The Olymipic games started with their ususal fanfare and the events will be ongoing through out the day. =============================================== ACTION RESPONSES ============================= CHINA (PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF) Population Approval: 55% Government Approval: 57% International Favor: 45% Economic Growth: 9.7%, high Inflation: 3.0% Unemployment: 10.1% The Chinese government has has a hell of a week, the warfare in North Korea continues to bog down troops, and the Vladivastok conference was chaos especially with South Korea wanting the reunificiation. Internally the Chinese Police are starting to get the message on human rights, and the last protest didn't have as many deaths though some prisoners were beaten after they surrendered. In other news massive DDOS attacks began to hit the great firewall, trying to crash as much of it as possible, almost as if a deliberate strike has been carried out. THe Firewall cracked down in 3 seperate occasions. Each time giving CHinese citizens unfettered web access. CHinese government websites began to crash, and links on them were redirected to either videos or Rick Astley, something called 2girls1cup (DO NOT GOOGLE THIS PEOPLE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT GOOGLE THIS) and the main Chinese govermnet website was replaced with a message. Greetings Chinese dictators, we are anonymous. we have declared war on china... Your government has repressed society, has imprisoned protestors has executed for actions which are not criminal. we will not rest until you are a democracy we will not surrender untill China is Free We are everwhere we are Legion We are many End transmission. Millions of dollars has been siphoned from the people's bank, and the main Television station computer has found itself under siege. JAPAN Population Approval: 52% Government Approval: 53% International Favor: 61% Economic Growth: 2.8% Inflation: 0.6% Unemployment: 4% Japan is now nervous. The media holds dueling accounts of the summit from MFA sources blaming the summit failure on China, Japan, the US, South Korea, and North Korea...in mutually exclusive versions, naturally. Protests throughout Japan are intense at the immigration changes - verging on riots in less homogenous regions, with attacks reported even on JETs, the foreigners who come into Japanese schools to help teach English and help Japanese kids get used to seeing non-Japanese people. The Civil Service cutback plans result in the Sohyo, the union representing most public sector workers, announcing a strike throughout the public service, planned for at least one week starting May 1. CANADA Population Approval: 40% Government Approval: 36% International Favor: 50% Economic Growth: 2.5% Inflation: 5.6% Unemployment: 6.2% The sudden interest in the expansion of the Military is met with both positives from folks who want the soldiers to have the best of the best but the desire to purchase nuclear subs has resulted in protests across the country, from those on the left who think to use nuclear subs would be a disaster, and from those on the right who argue it's too little too late. With the liberal government there is a lot more argument about the use of nuclear powered submarines, and several members have expressed displeasure at the desire to join the nuclear club. The expansion of rail has been met better though environmentalists are more upset over the destroying of natural timber for the railroads, and several protests have gotten more direct and some have even clashed with RCMP officers with several injuries and arrests. In addition to that buildings were damaged and riots have broken out. Media sources in Canada have been hammering the government hard for trying to turn Canada in to an armed fort. RUSSIAN FEDERATION Population Approval: 63% Government Approval: 59% International Favor: 61% Economic Growth: 2.5% Inflation: 5.6% Unemployment: 6.2% The Vladivostok Conference was a failure, but President Nemerenko wins approval from most everyone for trying. Had it worked, he would have been a shoo-in for the Nobel Peace Prize; now he's merely a strong candidate. Acts towards guaranteeing freedom of speech and of the press are approved...For 5 seconds, before this new freedom lets loose every kind of dirty, untrue, and unwanted speech on the planet, along with the good. Russians have a lot to get used to, which might explain why there's a bit of grumbling. However, at the same time, there's also a culture of editorial opinion and investigative reporting which has sprung up with a vengeance, with papers representing every shade of political view in Russian life springing up - often, multiple. Playboy Rossiya is announced to begin publication in a month, and even more interesting publications are likely to follow. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Population Approval: 52% Government Approval: 50% International Favor: 64% Economic Growth: 2.9% Inflation: 3.1% Unemployment: 4.2% The Williams Administration has been rocked by the failure of the summit, though pundits are blaming China and Korea in equal doses, the disclosures of US involvement in the North Korea warfare has resulted in a congressional hearing about the covert opreations and the possibe violations of the War Powers Act and the Hatch Ammendmant, former congressman Dennis Kuchinich has been very vocal in calling for the impeachment of President Williams, however most pundits have ignored him. The big topics have been the Korea situation, the CIA agents in a Chinese prison which has been protests and calls for removing them FAST and using whatever assets the government has to carry this out. Another topic of coversation has been how 'tired and stressed' the president looks, a website called preswatch.cx has opened up and is taking bets on how long williams will last in this term, Since it is taking place outside the US, and they are not actually calling for his death the Secret Service can do nothing ============================================= ECONOMIC INDICATORS NOTE: Initial indicators were gleaned from as recent sources as possible, for the most recent term possible (annualized). In some cases, the numbers used are published estimates, but the English- speaking nations' data is more or less right from the source. Depression: Economic forces retracting uncontrolably and at a dangerous pace with little end in sight. Recession: Economic forces retracting, but more shallow than Depression and more controlably. Sometimes necessary and part of regular economic trends, although prelonged. Revision: Economic forces retracting slightly and short term, associated with economic systems refitting to accomodate new industries, concentrations, etc. Zero: No movement one way or the other. Low: Comparatively low Economic growth/activity. (miniscule to about 2%, depending) Good: Average economic activity (ranging from 2%-5% normally) High: Above average performance (Greater than 5%) Sometimes dangerous if in excess of 8% continuously. SITES OF INTEREST WAR Website: http://war.dagarcia.net/ Nova Horizon Simulations: http://www.novahorizon.com United Nations: http://www.un.org/ Central Intelligence Agency: http://www.cia.gov/ CIA World Factbook: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ Federation of American Scientists: http://www.fas.org/ GlobalSecurity.org: http://www.globalsecurity.org/ CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ BBC: http://www.bbc.com/ New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/ _______________________________________________ War mailing list War at esteroic.com http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com From john.penta at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 14:28:52 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:28:52 -0400 Subject: [War] US: Doctor's Orders Message-ID: "Doctor's Orders" April 13, 2014 Pres. John Williams Capt. J.T Spaulding, MD, USN USA ============================ It was a relatively quiet Palm Sunday for the President - meaning he was only planning to spend 3 hours on work, not his usual 12. The amount of sheer paperwork, memos and the like, a President had to deal with had surprised him at first - now it was a regular part of the routine to spend weekends going over the stuff he couldn't get done in 20 hour days. That schedule suited him well, or so he thought - frustratingly, Kay had come not to see it that way, and they'd gotten in a rather heated argument about it last night. Why she was so concerned was beyond him - he was fine. Tired, but fine. He'd done this before, anyway. How was it much difference from any training he'd been through in the Army? "Chief, *I'm not hungry*. Seriously." He noted to the Navy CPO who ran the White House Mess. He'd been eating only when work wasn't pressing, one, maybe two meals a day - added to his usual exercise routine, it kept him in great shape. No desk jockey weight gain, for one. The chief nodded again and moved off. Though the President's executive secretary was watching the more non descript naval officer sitting outside the oval office his black doctor's bag sitting next to him and reading a copy of Newsweek with a nondescript session. Secret Service agents continued their routine patrols. Finally the door opened and the secretary brough in a briefing book, "And Captain Spaulding is here to see you, says it really can't wait." Williams looked up - everybody said their thing 'couldn't wait', so he had a practiced look of nonchalance for such things. "Thanks, Nancy," he nodded to Nancy DiCarlo, setting the briefing book on the cyberattacks on Chinese sites on the table besides the chair he was sitting in. Subtly, he rubbed his eyes when nobody was looking. "Send the Cap'n in here." THe older officer walked in and set down his bag, one reason he had never been promoted, and hell he was ready to retire anyway so he spoke up, "Mr President, you have really not paid attention to your health lately and to be frank, I'm surprised you haven't stroked out by now, besides, you've been ignoring your checkups, and your last results are not encouraging." "Define not encouraging?" Williams asked. There was a practiced look of nonchalance on his face. "Your cholesterol is through the roof, your bloodpressure is on par to what I'd expect from a man who spent the entire day ingesting methamphetamine and espresso, your ekg shows cardiac irregularities that I woudl normally see on a man twice your age, and the fact you haven't had a massive stroke is a testiment to your current health, if you were in worse shape you'd be dead, and right now, you've just delayed that a year at most." "And has nobody else here noticed all hell breaking loose in the world?" Williams fired back. SPaulding looked at him, "I don't care about the world I care about my patient, and that is you. ANd right now if you work yourself to death, the world will still have all hell breaking loose, but the Vice President will be handling it because you'll be dead." "If that happens, that happens." It was at this point last night that his detail had walked in in the nick of time and calmly separated the first couple - Kay had been ready to strangle him. "Good, then you can explain to Mrs Williams why she's raising your child alone, and hey, at least the kid will have pictures of you to remember daddy...oh wait, he's not quite remebering daddy, because he's too young to remember. But hey." Spaulding shrugged, "She'll remarry then he can call the new guy daddy." "Cheap shot, doc." Pause. "I'm out of options here. I admit, work is my anti-drug. I'm incompetent as a dad - Lately, Luke barely seems comforted by me when he's cranky. The job I may suck at, but it's -something-. Besides, I can imagine the political reaction if I took a day off." "First of all he's a baby, they're always cranky. It's genetic, I've raised 4 of em, they get cranky, they cry, it's in their genetics. Now as for political reaction, you take a week off, go on Vacation, considering you're not exactly the vacation president the world will accept, better then if you end up being removed from office." "Point taken on both. If the press starts poking, go public on this. Confidentiality ceased being an excuse, within reason, once I got followed by officers carrying the football. Yeah, you know what I'm thinking: teachable moment," Williams shrugged. Spaulding looked at him, "It's very simple Mr Williams, right now you are ok but if you keep this up you will be either dead or so stressed you can't actually think straight, so here is doctor's orders, you WILL take a week's vacation, Where I don't care but it will be you, your family, secret service, and not much else, you will let VPOTUS handle things, either officially cedeing power or unofficially, only exception will be bills that desperately need to be signed, and when you get back, you will sleep 6-8 hours a day, more preferred, and you will eat regular meals. You will work no more then 10 hours a day, unles world war 3 breaks out, you will get rest, you will exercise, you will do this or I will contact the Speaker of the House and make my concerns noted. Now if this is our last meeting because you are going to make me retire or transfer me to NAS Adak Alaska, then it was good serving you but I take this, protect my patients thing seroiusly. Why do you think I'm only tagged promotable but will never see a star." Williams grinned. Then, his voice went into 'Commander's Intent' mode, speech clipped and voice level. "I'll do you one better: You're on the Med Corps list next board, or I get heads on platters. And the Secret Service can stay home - I'm heading to someplace isolated in Hawaii for two weeks that I'm coming to agree I need; if someone gets there then we have more than they can handle. If the press asks, you'll brief them publicly. In return, if they get within 5 miles of me they lose all access - for both my sake and yours. "Next: While I'm gone, do something for both of us - you have an R&D budget of $25 Million I'm dispensing ftom general White House funds. let's see what we can do to get decision support software going for the entire White House staff, me included - if I can cut out the less necessary stuff, just move it online, I could easily claw back another three hours in my day. I kept putting off the tasking to you - no more. This place bred unhealthy stress management long before I got here for everybody from me down - that needs to end soon. It'll never be an easy place to work, but we need to get ahead of the curve. Let's use technology and do that - think off the wall if you need to. I'll provide my schedules for 3 months as research material. Idea is that nobody here on the policy staff should need to work more than 10 hours - preferably 8 - but we need to keep the work level up. "Finally: You're responsible for the whole White House. Start scheduling physicals for the civilian staff - mil duty physicals fit the bill, use the same protocols if your judgment indicates, and schedule at least 30 days leave for everybody - including you. Let's actually use this to change things. I admit it, I've let myself go - that's a bad habit of this place we need to change." Then, Williams settled back. "In short: You win, and then some. I work like I'm still in the Army, I know. Cept, this job wakes me up at 3 am more often." SPaulding nodded, "Well sir, then the staff needs to delegate, the only time the President shoudl be woken up at 3 am is war has been declared." "If you can convince them of that, I'd be grateful. In any case - okay, I need to destress. After Easter, I'll head out to Hawaii for 2 weeks with Kay, Luke, and as close to nobody else as we can pull off. I fully intend to leave Secret Service at home while I'm out there - I'll remain in contact, but nothing more than daily briefings by secure net and courier from COMPAC, and leave me alone except for absolute emergency situations. "Meanwhile, you follow up on the taskings I've laid out - by the time I get back, lets see if we can figure out ways tech can make things better for the support staff so I *can* use them more, most particularly." Spaulding nodded again and made some notes, "When you get back we will have ideas." --- Actions: 1. POTUS ordered by doc to go on vacation for 2 weeks after Easter. 2. WH Med Unit to begin R&D on technical help to WH staff (including POTUS) claw back time and do things more efficiently - decision support technologies especially, but also simply to enable better human performance. 3. All WH Staff and Cabinet staff to get full physicals while POTUS is out, and to consult w/ WH Med Unit on human factors issues. 4. Congressional leadership to be briefed by Dr. Spaulding as to Presidential health - Press to be kept 5mi from POTUS during his desperately needed vacation, but WH will be open within reason about whats going on. 5. Teachable moment time! Doc to use this, use his patient to encourage a better work-life balance by Americans; in short, to use their vacation time. From martellian at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 03:17:24 2008 From: martellian at hotmail.com (Ian Martell) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:17:24 -0700 Subject: [War] World Report volume 4 In-Reply-To: <480BA99C.5000807@aol.com> References: <480BA99C.5000807@aol.com> Message-ID: Hey Pat, Check my actions on my posts there. What immigration changes? All there was is a leak about a study on what immigration changes might be possible. Also the cut backs in the Civil Service are for after the people in those posts retire. Just making sure we're on the same page. Ian -------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick B" Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:37 PM To: Subject: [War] World Report volume 4 > AR: World Report > > - For all actions since Volume 2, advancing the timeline to April 13-18 > 2014 > > United Nations Security Council (Permanent Members): United States, > United Kingdom, France, China, Russia > > United Nations Security Council (Non-Permanent Members): > Until September, 2007: India, Egypt, Norway, Mexico, Venezuela > Until October, 2007: Canada, Chile, Italy, South Africa, Japan > > Pending UN Security Council Actions: None > Pending UN General Assembly Actions: None > United Nations Secretariat: No news. > ============== > Ok here we go another WR, welcome our new Canadaian player, In world > news the Vladivastok peace conference has collapsed with the US and > CHina accusing each other of breaking treaties, Media pundits have > commented on how 'tired and stressed' president williams looked. > > The Olymipic games started with their ususal fanfare and the events will > be ongoing through out the day. > =============================================== > > ACTION RESPONSES > ============================= > > CHINA (PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF) > > Population Approval: 55% > Government Approval: 57% > International Favor: 45% > Economic Growth: 9.7%, high > Inflation: 3.0% > Unemployment: 10.1% > > The Chinese government has has a hell of a week, the warfare in North > Korea continues to bog down troops, and the Vladivastok conference was > chaos especially with South Korea wanting the reunificiation. > > Internally the Chinese Police are starting to get the message on human > rights, and the last protest didn't have as many deaths though some > prisoners were beaten after they surrendered. > > In other news massive DDOS attacks began to hit the great firewall, > trying to crash as much of it as possible, almost as if a deliberate > strike has been carried out. THe Firewall cracked down in 3 seperate > occasions. Each time giving CHinese citizens unfettered web access. > > CHinese government websites began to crash, and links on them were > redirected to either videos or Rick Astley, something called 2girls1cup > (DO NOT GOOGLE THIS PEOPLE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT GOOGLE THIS) and > the main Chinese govermnet website was replaced with a message. > > Greetings Chinese dictators, we are anonymous. > we have declared war on china... > Your government has repressed society, has imprisoned protestors has > executed for actions which are not criminal. > we will not rest until you are a democracy > we will not surrender untill China is Free > We are everwhere > we are Legion > We are many > End transmission. > > Millions of dollars has been siphoned from the people's bank, and the > main Television station computer has found itself under siege. > > JAPAN > > Population Approval: 52% > Government Approval: 53% > International Favor: 61% > Economic Growth: 2.8% > Inflation: 0.6% > Unemployment: 4% > > Japan is now nervous. The media holds dueling accounts of the summit > from MFA sources blaming the summit failure on China, Japan, the US, > South Korea, and North Korea...in mutually exclusive versions, > naturally. Protests throughout Japan are intense at the immigration > changes - verging on riots in less homogenous regions, with attacks > reported even on JETs, the foreigners who come into Japanese schools to > help teach English and help Japanese kids get used to seeing > non-Japanese people. The Civil Service cutback plans result in the > Sohyo, the union representing most public sector workers, announcing a > strike throughout the public service, planned for at least one week > starting May 1. > > CANADA > > Population Approval: 40% > Government Approval: 36% > International Favor: 50% > Economic Growth: 2.5% > Inflation: 5.6% > Unemployment: 6.2% > > The sudden interest in the expansion of the Military is met with both > positives from folks who want the soldiers to have the best of the best > but the desire to purchase nuclear subs has resulted in protests across > the country, from those on the left who think to use nuclear subs would > be a disaster, and from those on the right who argue it's too little too > late. > > With the liberal government there is a lot more argument about the use > of nuclear powered submarines, and several members have expressed > displeasure at the desire to join the nuclear club. > > The expansion of rail has been met better though environmentalists are > more upset over the destroying of natural timber for the railroads, and > several protests have gotten more direct and some have even clashed with > RCMP officers with several injuries and arrests. In addition to that > buildings were damaged and riots have broken out. > > Media sources in Canada have been hammering the government hard for > trying to turn Canada in to an armed fort. > > > RUSSIAN FEDERATION > > Population Approval: 63% > Government Approval: 59% > International Favor: 61% > Economic Growth: 2.5% > Inflation: 5.6% > Unemployment: 6.2% > > The Vladivostok Conference was a failure, but President Nemerenko wins > approval from most everyone for trying. Had it worked, he would have > been a shoo-in for the Nobel Peace Prize; now he's merely a strong > candidate. Acts towards guaranteeing freedom of speech and of the press > are approved...For 5 seconds, before this new freedom lets loose every > kind of dirty, untrue, and unwanted speech on the planet, along with the > good. Russians have a lot to get used to, which might explain why > there's a bit of grumbling. However, at the same time, there's also a > culture of editorial opinion and investigative reporting which has > sprung up with a vengeance, with papers representing every shade of > political view in Russian life springing up - often, multiple. Playboy > Rossiya is announced to begin publication in a month, and even more > interesting publications are likely to follow. > > UNITED STATES OF AMERICA > > Population Approval: 52% > Government Approval: 50% > International Favor: 64% > Economic Growth: 2.9% > Inflation: 3.1% > Unemployment: 4.2% > > The Williams Administration has been rocked by the failure of the > summit, though pundits are blaming China and Korea in equal doses, the > disclosures of US involvement in the North Korea warfare has resulted in > a congressional hearing about the covert opreations and the possibe > violations of the War Powers Act and the Hatch Ammendmant, former > congressman Dennis Kuchinich has been very vocal in calling for the > impeachment of President Williams, however most pundits have ignored him. > > The big topics have been the Korea situation, the CIA agents in a > Chinese prison which has been protests and calls for removing them FAST > and using whatever assets the government has to carry this out. > > Another topic of coversation has been how 'tired and stressed' the > president looks, a website called preswatch.cx has opened up and is > taking bets on how long williams will last in this term, Since it is > taking place outside the US, and they are not actually calling for his > death the Secret Service can do nothing > > ============================================= > > ECONOMIC INDICATORS > > NOTE: Initial indicators were gleaned from as recent sources as > possible, for the most recent term possible (annualized). In some > cases, the numbers used are published estimates, but the English- > speaking nations' data is more or less right from the source. > > Depression: Economic forces retracting uncontrolably and at a > dangerous pace with little end in sight. > > Recession: Economic forces retracting, but more shallow than > Depression and more controlably. Sometimes necessary and part of > regular economic trends, although prelonged. > > Revision: Economic forces retracting slightly and short term, > associated with economic systems refitting to accomodate new > industries, concentrations, etc. > > Zero: No movement one way or the other. > Low: Comparatively low Economic growth/activity. (miniscule to about > 2%, depending) > Good: Average economic activity (ranging from 2%-5% normally) > High: Above average performance (Greater than 5%) Sometimes > dangerous if in excess of 8% continuously. > > SITES OF INTEREST > > WAR Website: http://war.dagarcia.net/ > Nova Horizon Simulations: http://www.novahorizon.com > United Nations: http://www.un.org/ > Central Intelligence Agency: http://www.cia.gov/ > CIA World Factbook: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ > Federation of American Scientists: http://www.fas.org/ > GlobalSecurity.org: http://www.globalsecurity.org/ > CNN: http://www.cnn.com/ > BBC: http://www.bbc.com/ > New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > War mailing list > War at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > > _______________________________________________ > War mailing list > War at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > From pbuck11 at aol.com Tue Apr 22 03:18:31 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:18:31 -0600 Subject: [War] World Report volume 4 In-Reply-To: References: <480BA99C.5000807@aol.com> Message-ID: <480D9147.8030602@aol.com> 1) iT'S A DAMNED UNION As far as they're concerned any change is bad. 2) the immigration, John helped out with that so yell at him http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com From john.penta at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 08:54:41 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:54:41 -0400 Subject: [War] World Report volume 4 In-Reply-To: <480D9147.8030602@aol.com> References: <480BA99C.5000807@aol.com> <480D9147.8030602@aol.com> Message-ID: I completely misread that post oops. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Patrick B wrote: > 1) iT'S A DAMNED UNION As far as they're concerned any change is bad. > > 2) the immigration, John helped out with that so yell at him > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > > > _______________________________________________ > War mailing list > War at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > From john.penta at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 10:59:00 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:59:00 -0400 Subject: [War] US: White House Roles and Missions Message-ID: "White House Roles and Missions" 16 April 2014 Pres. John Williams USA ============================ From The President To All White House Personnel Re: On Various Aspects 16 April 2014 In the interest of administrative efficency and clarity, I have written taskings for various White House and EOP agencies below. These, in short, are "who does what", along with some thoughts on related matters. These will take effect when I return from my medically-ordered vacation or 1 June, whichever is later. These will be short, but I will be available for the rest of the week for drop-in questions. OVP (Office of the Vice President) is responsible for the Constitutional functions of the Vice President. In addition, to leverage the VP's experience on the Hill, OVP will be the lead for all Congressional relations. I expect Vice President Stevens to spend most of his time on the Hill, establishing good relations with both chambers and both parties. OFL: The Office of the First Lady handles whatever Kay likes. There is no role, I will not force her into one. However, she will in many ways be my eyes and ears on a variety of things, as we agree. The White House Medical Unit will be expanded slightly, to take on: Dentistry Office - Family practitioner and assistants for regular dental needs. 24/7 coverage not required. Psychological Unit - 1 Psychiatrist certified in Child, Adolescent, and Adult Psychiatry, undetermined number of clinical psychologists to provide mental health/psychological support to all operations as needed. 24/7 coverage optional. Physical Training Unit - Physical Trainers to assist all members of the White House Staff in maintaining optimum physical performance. Dietitian - to assist the White House Mess in its responsibilities. No veto for em, though - they'll have to earn everybody's acceptance. Yes, a wide-ranging expansion. The WHMU is open to all members of the White House Staff during duty hours, and will maintain health records for all military and civilian staff members. This includes assistance with personal health matters; they're not your primary health provider and should not be, but they're around for questions, advice, or help with bad habits like smoking. I plan to cut back a lot on the "dog and pony" elements of our work, except for what people volunteer to do. We have 10 hours a day except during crises to get what we need to do done - there's no longer the time. Additionally: Principles for Presidential Security: 1. Minimum restriction, minimum disruption. If you do not -need- to block off streets, don't. We can get by with one car, or three? Better than the 40-car motorcade. 2. Think rationally: People have come to -look- for the Massive Security Apparatus. Sometimes, it might be a nice surprise not to have that. 3. Image Matters: The more approachable I seem, the better people relate. Not in a Bush 43 way, but in a "wow, he's not in a bubble" way. Williams --- Actions: 1. Various bits. 2. Request Congressional funding for the staff changes. Shouldn't be hard to get, its a modernization of things mostly. 3. Implement new, lighter touch, security for movements. From john.penta at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 11:21:01 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:21:01 -0400 Subject: [War] US: Hi, overseers! Message-ID: "Hi, overseers!" 17 April 2008 President John Williams USA =================== "Oh, stop worrying, Nick." President Williams reassured his DNI. "You aren't the one due to be roasted on the Hill," Manfredi noted. "No, I've done it from the other side, recall? Just be honest and open. It'll be closed sessions, so surprise them. Tell everything." "Everything?" "Everything. Be honest, be open, be candid. They want to roast you on a gridiron, be like Saint Lawrence. Tell em you're done on this side and they can turn you over now." That got a chuckle. "You're serious." "Yup. Op's blown, nothing more the Chinese can learn about it anyway that they don't already know." "Yeah, but -why-?" "Radical openness has a virtue. You look standup, you can be forgiven a lot. Including a fuck up or two." "I hope to hell you're right." ---- Actions: 1. Williams admin stance before the Intel Committees who'll be doing the hearings: Radical Openness. In closed session, we spill our guts in detail. Kill em with kindness. From john.penta at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 13:10:20 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:10:20 -0400 Subject: [War] US: They walked! Message-ID: "They Walked!" Pres.John Williams 14 April 2014 USA =============== "Oh, hell," Williams muttered, looking over the editorial roundup in the Early Bird. "Why are we getting dumped on? The *Chinese* walked, not us. After the first round!" "You did take a pretty hard line," Secretary Abbot noted. "Anyway, calm down, John. You know damn well you'd get hit no matter what you did. People want a James Bond commando raid, which -nobody can give them-, but we can't say that." "It was a bargaining position, dammit." "Still," Secretary Hill noted, walking into the Oval Office. "People are nervous. What's our PR strategy?" "Present our strategy, present it unvarnished. Give out a transcript of my opening speech, try to get Seoul and Tokyo to release their speeches. Basically, we don't engage in rhetorical games. The truth shall be our redemption," Williams replied. "Putting a lot on people believing you to tell the truth," Hill noted. "If people don't believe me to tell the truth, nothing will work, anyway." "Stop sounding so gloomy, Ioannes." --- Actions: 1. PR strategy: Unvarnished openness. 2. Release transcript of US remarks at Conference to the press. 3. It's China's fault, dammit. They walked, not us. From dylandv at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 19:50:25 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:50:25 -0700 Subject: [War] Canada: Green Thumb Message-ID: <763946e70804251650h68bd411dobf9949b56fc3e209@mail.gmail.com> 'Green Thumb' April.13/2014 Prime Minister James McColl Canada ---------------- Environment Minister Michelle le Dam casually strolled into the office and closed the door softly. McColl beckoned her over and she sank into one of the comfy deep leather lazy boy chairs he kept in his private office. le Dam had succeeded Stephane Dion as the party's main environmentalist, but she had none of his shy personality or mangled english skills. She was a confident speaker and legislator, and wasn't afraid of speaking her mind. "Good to see you Michelle, how you've been these last few days?" "Not half bad. Can't complain. Kids are doing well in school and I'm popular in my riding." She grinned ruefully. Popular support for the grits had fallen since they had proposed buying the nuc subs, but not to dangerously low levels. with 40% support, they were still well within majority government territory if it ever came to that at this time. le Dam got right down to business. "So here's what I had in mind: an extension of our national parks system. Parks Canada has tons of dough these days, so I think we should give them something to spend it on. Plus, it will go over well with the citizens and anyone concerned with the environment generally." "Yes, I remember now. I like it. You know, we have so much wilderness, but not enough parkland. A shame really, because there is so much land we could cover. How many new ones were you thinking?" McColl asked. "Well, we have earmarked both areas unspoiled by development and ecologically sensitive areas where endangered species live. I was hoping for a new park in each province and territory, so 13 in all. There are so many places, ranging from lake country to mountains to prairie to marine areas." "Excellent work. How long has this been in planning for anyways? I heard rumours that the tories had similar plans." "It's true James, we dug out they paper work and added on to it. Made it better. And now we get to steal their thunder." They shared a smile, "But yea, those studies go back three years. Several weren't completed either. We did in four months what took them three years. Must have been low priority." "Mmhmm... Well Michelle, nice work on this one. Make the announcement soon eh? I've got a mound of papers here to go through, so I hope you don't mind if you'll excuse me for cutting this short." "Okay, take care." "You too." She left quietly, the way she had come in. McColl turned his thoughts back to other matters. He had liked William's idea to recommend four Canadian soldiers for the Victoria Cross, and had talked to the Governor General about it. He had perceived a positive response, and the GG had promised to put in a word with the Queen, so he felt satisfied. No Canadian soldier had received the Victoria Cross since 1945, at the end of the Second World War. His government had also officially filed the request to buy the Virginias after gauging the public reaction. They had yet to receive a reply from the American government, but weren't worried. They knew it would take time. And anyways, there was always things to do to keep occupied. ------------------- Actions: 1: Shake off writer's block 2: Say "We care about the environment, unlike 'dem Conservatives" 3: Get some soldiers lined up to receive the VC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080425/79b0eedd/attachment.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 15:14:01 2008 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Daniel Garcia) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:14:01 -0400 Subject: [War] France: Another Turn of the Presidential Turnstyle Message-ID: <1E71A60E-E87E-46EE-9155-AF77C880A8AB@yahoo.com> "France: Another Turn of the Presidential Turnstyle" President Pierre Th?ophile Legrand, French Republic April 14, 2014 (OOC: So, I have finally returned to posting. I survived, apparently, one of the most hard worked semesters of my life, and have a bit more time. I don't know if that'll hold, but I'll try to keep posting semi-regularly. I have also ditched my current character (President Zo? Amp?re) for a reincarnation of a previous one who I think I like much better. Note that the events depicted at the start of the post indeed happened previously, so I have retconned nothing. Anyway, here's hoping!) *** November 12, 2009 *** The cacophony that erupted as Prime Minister Armand Clouet, a close friend and ally of President Robert Legrand, finished his remarks to the Senate defending the government's violent response to food riots by people of largely African and Muslim descent could have been heard in French Polynesia. Early reports said dozens had been killed. Some were saying that that number would pass one hundred. The French Parliament had erupted into bitter debate. The leadership of the UMP, urged on by the President, tried to move on to normal business. But the Socialists scented blood, and were joined by many of the UMP members who were aghast at what had happened. It was one thing to not like France's "foreign" citizens, but it was quite another to kill them by the dozen. It hadn't helped matters that the previous evening, as the massacre became known, on French national television a pro-immigration activist by the name of Zo? Amp?re had given a passionate and scathing indictment of the government's policies on immigration and discrimination. French politics was in the midst of a near revolt, and as the Parliament ground onward in heaving debate, it became clear that it would soon be dissolved by the President. President of the Senate Jules Donnadieu looked at a loss in trying to restore order to the room of shouting and arguing men. The Senate chamber was a stormy sea of dissent, though as with many storms this one had an eye of calm. It's name was Pierre Th?ophile Legrand. Not related to the President, in general appearance they were roughly similar. Both were tall and thin, with the President being a bit shorter and appearing stouter. Both had a genteel appearance about them. But in temperament, they were opposites. Robert Legrand was a firebrand, a passionate, fierce politician. Pierre Legrand was always calm, and few had ever seen him visibly angry. People feared Robert Legrand, and respected Pierre Legrand. Thus when Pierre finally stood, having sat looking quite peaceful and having been quite silent during the debate, people noticed. And, as Moses had parted the Red Sea, Pierre calmed the Senate. He stood, his hands held at chest level, which was quite high considering his great height. When the Senate had quieted down enough, and Donnadieu nodded in assent, Pierre began to speak. "My colleagues, I have been sitting here listening to the many angry words which have been traded today. Yesterday's events were unaccountably tragic, and the moving words of Ms. Amp?re on television last night have moved us all. A single death is a tragedy, and many deaths exponentiates the tragedy. "Some have defended the government on the basis that those who have died were violent law breakers, who were destroying property. But these people who have suffered such indignities, unfairness in education, in housing, in employment, and yet stood in firm obedience to the laws of the Republic should not be castigated that their patience should be broken by difficulties in obtaining basic food and nutrition. A man may survive unemployment. A man can live with being looked down upon by others for many years at a time. But take away his food, his means to keep himself and his family, his children, alive, and you have removed the last thing worth living for. "A government, in its fundamental purpose, exists to ensure that all citizens, *all* citizens, might live their lives on a fair and equitable basis. To allow fear, hopelessness, and death to haunt any portion of our citizenry, even should society view them as outsiders, is at it's heart a failure of government. Yesterday the government of the French Republic failed. No amount of rhetoric, no amount of anti- immigration policy can paper over the fact that those who died yesterday were French citizens. "My friends, we have failed. There is no Liberty. There is no Equality. And, today, there is certainly no Fraternity between the Citizens of France." Had the words been spoken with passion, with fire, or even with determination, the chaos which Pierre Legrand had acted to abate would have returned multiplied a hundred-fold. Yet the words were spoken with calmness, even with sadness. When he had finished, the chamber was quiet, and only slowly, as Legrand sat back down, did the business of the body resume, much muted. *** March 29, 2014 *** Noele Legrand stopped in the entrance to the kitchen. There, in front of the television which was tuned to the new channel, sat her husband, Pierre, reading a newspaper. It couldn't have been much past eight in the morning, but he was immaculately and well dressed already. Noele put her hands on her hips. "Pierre, what in God's name are you doing here?! Why aren't you in Paris," she asked exasperatedly. Her husband, dedicated public servant he may be, also had a habit of sneaking away from time to time. And though she was not nearly as attuned to the political scene as he was, she knew well enough that now was not the best time for the President of the Senate of France to be away from the center of power in Paris. Pierre looked up, and smiled wanly as he moved up to her. Noele was not a short woman, but still Pierre towered over her as he kissed her on her forehead. "I am taking advantage of a last lull before the storm which must come," he said, seating her at the kitchen table while he prepared her a breakfast. "Besides, I missed you, and you like hiding away down here." As Pierre continued her breakfast preparations, Noele turned up the volume on the television. "...when President Amp?re was contradicted by the Minister of Defense on the issue." The anchor continued, "This marks the third embarrassment for the President in the past two weeks. Members of the Socialist opposition, and even of her own party, have attacked the President's government as uncoordinated and out of the President's control. The ?lys?e Palace denied these allegations, stating that these attacks were politically motivated and not a reflection on the reality of the government's operations." Noele's brow furrowed. "Things do not seem to be going well for President Amp?re," she remarked. "No, they do not," Pierre said, putting down Noele's breakfast in front of her, before picking up his newspaper. "In fact they are going quite badly. She isn't really able to control much of the government. She has some good ideas, and is a nice person. But government isn't filled with nice people, and her speeches can only get her so far." "That's too bad," Noele remarked. She had met Zo? Amp?re on a few occasions, and had liked her. Pierre nodded. "Though I have avoided the discussions, I hear that she is considering resigning. She knows that she's not doing too well and is dedicated enough to do something about it," he said. Noele nodded, and then paused. "If President Amp?re resigns, doesn't that make you acting President," Noele asked in sudden realization. Pierre nodded. "Yes. That's why I've avoided the discussions on the matter, and why I drove down here early this morning. I might as well rest while I have the opportunity," Pierre said, flipping over a page in the paper. Noele frowned with a knowing look. "Pierre Legrand, did you get up early to drive here before breakfast again? You're not a young man anymore," Noele exclaimed. Pierre looked up, smiled, and shrugged in the manner that the French people had perfected over the years. "I'm much more spry than I ever was as a young man. My physical condition is much better than it was when I was young," Pierre said. Noele nodded tiredly at the old defense which Pierre had used hundreds of times. Of course, he was partially right, but old is old. *** April 10, 2014 *** Pierre walked slowly into the office of the President of the French Republic, slowly and with good bearing. Behind the President's desk sat an obviously tired Zo? Amp?re. As he approached, he bowed slightly and offered his hand, which the younger woman took. "Senator Legrand, please take a seat. I understand that you are aware of the recent discussions," she said, looking directly at him. Pierre nodded sagely. "Yes, Madam President," he said simply. "Then you know that in two hours time I will announce my resignation, effective immediately and that you will be sworn in as acting President at that time," she continued. Pierre again nodded. "Yes. And may I say that I am sorry that your Presidency is to end this way. You have had and continue to have my respect," he said. "But not your support," she said pointedly. Pierre leaned backwards slightly and smiled gently. "I am afraid not. We both know that our country needs good government. You know that you have not been able to provide this, despite your best efforts. And to your credit, you realize this and have accepted it. There are some who have held this office who have been substantially less wise," Pierre pointed out. Zo? here smiled. "Including my predecessor, who was also named Legrand," she said with a smile. There was, after all, a small measure of ill feelings. Pierre shrugged. "I can only hope that my tenure turns out much better than his," Pierre admitted. Zo? nodded seriously. "I am to understand that you will be appointing a new, caretaker government," Zo? only partially asked. She had been informed. "Yes, Madam President," he said. Zo? continued. "I have already accepted the resignation of the government earlier this morning. The current ministers will continue in office until the new caretaker government is confirmed," she said, seemingly with pleasure. If she bore some ill feelings to the man who would be replacing her, she must not care much for those who had put her in the position of needing to be replaced. "Thank you, Madam President. If I might enquire, what are your plans," Pierre asked benevolently. Zo? sat back, relaxing at the thought of the end of her Presidential responsibilities. "I think I will go back to campaigning for minority rights. Perhaps do some writing," she said, looking into the distance. "That sounds nice," Pierre noted. There was a moment of silence before Pierre stood. "Then, with your leave Madam President, I have a few last items which I need to address." "Of course," Zo? said, standing. Then awkwardly, "I would like to wish you well, or at least better than I had." *** April 14, 2014 *** "My fellow citizens, "The recent weeks, and indeed recent years, have been a difficult time for our French Republic. Confidence in the government is low, and many despair of hope for good government. I do not know that I can reverse these trends, but I am determined to try. "The caretaker government is now in place, and has begun its work. An election has, as per my remarks last Thursday, been called for May 10th, as per the constitution. I would like to announce that I will stand as the Union for a Popular Movement's candidate for the Presidency. "If I may be brief, our country has suffered much pain of late, and I expect that there is still some pain in store. But if France has lost her way, we have the ability, if we so choose, to right ourselves. There will be hard choices, and some of the choices made may seem difficult, too difficult to try. But nothing worth doing is easy. "There will, over the next weeks and years, be time to discuss the specific points of importance. But for now have faith that France is returning to its rightful course." ACTIONS: 1) Introduce acting President Pierre Legrand, and the exit of President Zo? Amp?re. 2) Announce that Legrand will be running for a full term as President. From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 17:48:28 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:18:28 -0230 Subject: [War] Special Post: "How Things Get Started" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804301448y41166749offcf8e4a61b2cc5e@mail.gmail.com> *[Khojavend Province, Azerbaijan, Five Years Ago]* It seemed that wherever Bannister went it was hot. Not too surprising since he was an oil prospector and oil tended to be in either some dusty Arab desert of humid African jungle nowadays. He consoled himself with the knowledge that he wasn't freezing his ass off in Siberia with those poor slobs from Royal Dutch Shell. There was oil there too, just harder to get. Really Azerbaijan wasn't too bad. Sure it was hot, but no hotter than it probably was back home in Georgia this time of year. And for a supposedly poor, ex-Commie, Muslim country the locals were pretty nice. Actually the poor part wasn't too true either, because Azerbaijan had that great price sought after by so many people. This had been a known fact for several years now. Pipelines stretched all the way across through Georgia, into Turkey and from there half the homes in Western Europe. A nice bit of cash had been coming to the Azerbaijani which probably explained why the country was a bit nicer than Bannister had expected when the brass back at ExxonMobil had sent him here. Taking a few last puffs of his cigarette, Bannister dropped the but to the ground and headed back to the main control trailer situated in the middle of the prospecting camp. Dusty and dirty from the dry summer winds currently prevailing the interior was clean, full of computers and other fancy equipment, and most importantly air conditioned. "Please don't tell me we've just wasted the past five weeks," quipped Bannister to his two comrades, Ellis and some local named Agera. "I missed my daughter's birthday to run around this place." "Well you can buy her a pony to make up for it," said Ellis with a smile. That elicited a chuckle from Bannister. "Yeah, maybe if my salary triples." "It just did," replied Ellis, handing Bannister a printout. Bannister read it over quickly, the shock registering on his face. "This is?." Both Ellis and Agera nodded with broad smiles. "Fifty billion. Fifty billion barrels of light, sweet crude oil." "At the very least," added Agera, some ex-Gazprom guy that Exxon had hired on a few years ago. "It's very deep down but the size of the deposit and the purity of the oil will more than make up for any investment cost." Was this how the prospectors in the old gold rush had felt? The thrill, the satisfaction. That was how Bannister felt now, having hit black gold. --- *[Somewhere in Iran, four months ago]* Salim had never considered himself a terrorist. Like many Iranian Kurds he did not share in the religious fanaticism of the Persian majority in the country. Oh, he was a devout Muslim and did believe in God's presence and will in the world. Who didn't? But when the supposed leaders of God's faith tended to torture and murder your friends and family just for being a Kurd, it sometimes made you cynical. Somewhat like Salim's father, shot outside of Sanandaj as part of Khomeini's 'holy war' against the Iranian Kurds. The Persians deserved this. This retribution, this punishment. He didn't want to kill all of them, not destroy an entire people like that asshole Bin Laden had tried before the US SOCOM had shot him full of holes and dragged his body out of some cave in Pakistan. All Salim and his compatriots wanted was their own nation, a home where they would be free from oppression and tyranny. And if some drastic actions had to be taken in order to fulfill that dream then so be it. Gripping the AK-47 tightly in his hands, slick from nervous sweat, he and his compatriots moved quickly through the hole they had cut in the chain fence surrounding the oil pumping station. Salim seriously hoped he wouldn't have to use his rifle. Their mission here was more dramatic than just killing some oil workers and IRGC soldiers, though that would be the ultimate outcome if all went well. Saddam Hussein had learned the hard way that body counts don't mean much to the religious zealots that controlled Iran. No, if Salim and the countless others working in many different sights around the country at this very moment wanted to hurt the Persians, they would have to bring the country low and weak by other means. It took them about ten minutes, slightly longer than what Salim would have considered acceptable but the complacent IRGC soldiers watching this facility weren't expecting any trouble. The Ayatollah had been blathering about the infidel Americans, Jews and Europeans so much that everyone was expecting an attack to come from the sky with 'USAF' marked on the side. What a surprise they were in for. Ten minutes, in and out. Once they had retreated back to their trucks hidden a good two kilometres from the pumping station they broke out the radio detonator. "To you the honour, Salim," one of his compatriots said. Nodding and accepting the small black box he turned the key and pressed the button. The explosion lit the night sky for miles. --- Supreme Leader Rushid Al-Kalil Malisaj was a very confident man. He did not presume to be a prophet, for only Mohammed was a true prophet, but he did know that as an Ayatollah and the Supreme Leader of Iran the words he spoke were the true intentions of God. Iran was the only true Holy Land in the world, since those fat arrogant Saudis had corrupted the land of the two Mosques by prostituting themselves to the Great Satan so many years ago. Iran was the chosen nation, its people the chosen people. "God tests us in many different ways," he said to the assembled council of experts, the leadership of Iran. After Malisaj himself of course. Most were clerics and generals but a few politicians sat at the table as well. Elected officials had their use so long as they followed the will of God as laid out by the Great Shiek Khomeini. "That we have been wounded in such a way should not make us despair. God will give us salvation if we obey his will." Calming words for such a dire situation. Last night someone, the IRGC suspected Kurdish rebels, had simultaneously attacked one third of the oil refineries and pumping stations throughout Iran. The death toll was in the hundreds and worse still the flow of precious oil had altogether ceased. Already chaos and panic were gripping the Iranian economy. "It is not just simply a matter of a dip in oil profits," commented Finance Minister Surhavi. "Despite our vast oil wealth, mismanagement in certain sectors and continued theft of oil for sale on the black market has made our country a net importer of energy for several years now. We do have strategic reserves but those will only last so long. Not to mention that much of our foreign capital has been spent acquiring new weapons from the Russians and Chinese." Was that a shot at the military? General Kezanari remained passive. Of course they had spent much on the defence forces. The American pigs were always watching Iran for weakness so they could attack their greatest foe in the Middle East from their bases in Iraq, yet another puppet state of the Great Satan. The Iraq War had shown them the need to be ever prepared for war with the infidels, because someday it would come. "How long will it take to repair the damage?" asked Malisaj. "Years, at least. The pumping stations will be a rather straightforward affair but refineries are much more complex. Not to mention expensive." "I refuse to be brought low by these filthy Kurds," spat President Soleimani. While Malisaj's devout faith was unquestioned, Soleimani was far more of a firebrand than the Supreme Leader. "What solutions do we have for this? There must be other sources of energy!" "Iraq, Saudi Arabia, any of the other Arab states, even the Russians," commented the Foreign Minister, Javalar. "But our relations with those states are not very cordial. They will almost certainly demand 'political reform.'" "You mean a corruption of our faith to satisfy their American masters!" seethed the President. "Such a course of action is not acceptable!" "There is of course another solution," spoke Kezanari, adding his voice to the table for the first time. "We cannot supply our own energy demands nor sustain our economy under these conditions. If we are to continue as a nation we must acquire a new source of petroleum income. And God has indeed offered us a blessing." "The Khojavend oil field?" asked Javalar. "Are you proposing an invasion of Azerbaijan?" "Our survival versus theirs. Not a hard choice." Considerable mumbling and concerned glances were erupted around the conference table. Invading a sovereign nation was no trivial matter. To conquer the Khojavend oil field would require the occupation of all southern Azerbaijan, if not the entire country. "An action that would draw the attention of the entire world, not to mention the wrath of the Russia. Very likely the Americans as well, looking for an excuse to attack us," warned Javalar. "Russia is a tiger that can be distracted with a prick to the paw," countered Kezanari. "For years our Chechen brothers have languished under the heretical yoke of their Russian masters. We could supply them with enough arms and specific intelligence for them to launch a third insurrection against the Federation. A similar method could be applied to Abkhazia and South Ossetia where Russian and EU peacekeepers are stationed. Perhaps they will not win, but it would certainly bog the Russian Army down long enough for us to strike quickly at Azerbaijan. By the time the Russian have realized what has happened we will have already dug in too deeply for them to remove us without immense bloodshed." "And what of the Americans?" pressed Kezanari. They were the real concern. "What of the Americans?" the General shrugged. "They are a mere step away from war with China. No matter how much their crazed Christian ideology calls for our destruction China is the greater threat. They will not risk war with us when war with China looms on the horizon. And do not forget that in their hearts the Americans are cowards. They would be even less willing than the Russians to suffer the losses required to dislodge us from Azerbaijan. And the EU has always been a cowardly, toothless old lion. If their American masters fail to act then so shall they." "So many assumptions," observed the Foreign Minister. "I recall the apostate Hussein making similar ones before invading Kuwait. And look what happened to him." Kezanari shrugged. "Hussein was an incompetent fool who didn't know how to properly run a war. We boast the most powerful military force in the entire Middle East. We are far more capable than the Iraqis were in 1990. Consider also the harsh lessons learned by the Americans in Iraq thirteen years later. They know that if they were to invade Iran, they would be years fighting our loyal warriors and lose far more men than they did to the Iraqi insurgency. No, Minister, now is the perfect time to strike. No one will have the strength of the will to stop us. Perhaps the Chinese might even recognize our control of Azerbaijan as a way to slight the Americans and the Russians. Not to mention act as a market for our new oil wealth." "We must justify the invasion somehow," Soleimani pointed out. "We can fabricate evidence linking the Azerbaijan government to the Kurdish terrorists that have killed so many of our countrymen. Once we have occupied the country, we will further fabricate bases and training camps that we will claim the Kurds used to plan and stage their attacks." Again there was more hushed talk among the conference table as they weighed their options. To do nothing would ensure Iran was made weak in the face of its many infidel enemies, those godless heathens that worked tirelessly to destroy Islam and dominate the lives of God's faithful as they had since the 19th Century. To act was to also invite destruction but also gain salvation. "If we do not secure a new source of fuel and income then we will falter," said the Supreme Leader after he had thought over the situation. "Obviously this cache of oil is a reward for our faithful adherence to God's will. That it has been placed in Azerbaijan is merely a way for God to test the strength of our resolve. No doubt we will have to endure much and perhaps even fight the Russians, Europeans and the Great Satan America. But God will protect us and see that we prevail. General Kezanari, make the preparations." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Multiple explosions, suspected to be car bombs and mortar fire, rocked the capital of Grozny as militants stormed the city to engage in a fierce firefight with Russian troops. At the same time there were also attacks made against Army outposts and police stations in several other locations throughout Chechnya. While the Russian military is typically very secretive and has often tried to keep foreign reporters out of Chechnya, recent relaxations in the former policy has allowed Reuters to put the death toll around one thousand dead, mostly Russian soldiers. These attacks come as a serious blow to the Kremlin which has been enjoying relative calm in Chechnya for the past three years. Meanwhile in the South Caucasus, more fighting has broken out in the two breakaway Georgian provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Having endured a similar situation as Chechnya since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, recent attempts by Russia and the European Union to impose peace on the two regions especially Abkhazia and make all three sides negotiate their future have been hurt by more fighting. A rash of car bombs and sniper attacks have left dozens of EU and Russian peacekeepers dead as well as scores of civilian bystanders. Worse still, Georgia is reporting that Abkhazian rebels have launched attacks across the border at a Georgian Army training camp. Five people have been reported killed, including one US Army officer sent as part of a training contingent in keeping with the American alliance with Georgia. All these events have been a massive setback for Russia and its partners to bring a permanent calm to the often unstable Caucasus. 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URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/71389153/attachment.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 17:49:05 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:19:05 -0230 Subject: [War] Special Report: "Russian Defence Minister Assassinated" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804301449q7e87fa73h4b80f636fa96fc7b@mail.gmail.com> Russian Defence Minister Assassinated 19 March 2014 BBC *[Defence Minister Gregor Yoselev killed by car bomb while being driven to work from his dacha.] * In yet another harsh blow to the Russian military and government, Defence Minister Gregor Yoselev, former Chairman of the General Staff and top officer in the Russian military, has been in the words of the Russian government 'assassinated' in Moscow today. According to a statement given by the Moscow Metropolitan Police and the Russian Internal Ministry, Minister Yoselev's limousine was intentionally hit by an oncoming vehicle which had managed to avoid the escort security vehicles accompanying the Minister's car. Moments after impact the attacking car exploded very violently, apparently laden with high explosives. The resulting blast completely destroyed both vehicles and several surrounding escort cars and pedestrian traffic. The total death toll is estimated at 56 with over two hundred wounded. The Kremlin has blamed Chechen separatists for the assassination. Prime Minister Tretiak, speaking from the Russian Parliament Building under heavy security, has vowed to find those responsible and bring them to justice. Meanwhile the Defence Minister's death combined with the outbreak of violence in Chechnya and the South Caucasus just days ago has put Russia into a precarious military position. Unconfirmed reports indicate that more and more Russian military forces are being diverted to the Caucasus, Chechnya in particular, and there are rumours of a leadership crises within the military. "This puts Russia into a tight bind," one anonymous NATO official said to Reuters. "With their top brass reeling from Minister Yoselev's death and so much of their regular units occupied in the Caucasus, they may not be able to respond to a more serious external threat." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/62a67c23/attachment.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 17:49:20 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:19:20 -0230 Subject: [War] Special Report: "Iran Invades Azerbaijan" Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804301449v72810620g615c4dd8bd5b6105@mail.gmail.com> Iran Invades Azerbaijan 22 March 2014 APP *[Tens of thousands of Iranian troops pour into southern Azerbaijan in what Tehran calls a 'police action.']* In a move that has absolutely stunned political and military analysts around the world, the Islamic Republic of Iran has launched a massive invasion of neighboring Azerbaijan. Reports are very sketchy but the basic understanding of the situation is that earlier this morning Iranian airborne troops were dropped just north of the city of Xankandi while larger armored formations advanced across the border form Iran. Local media has reported heavy air strike against local military bases. Giving a very brief statement a few hours after the invasion began, the Iranain government characterized the invasion as a 'police action' and claimed that Kurdish rebels responsible for a major terrorist attack that severely damaged the Iranian oil industry several months ago had been sheltered by Azerbaijan and operated training camps in the southern part of the country. The Iranian statement went on to say that the government in Baku had oppressed the religiously devout and 'protecting the freedom of Muslims to practice their religion without fear of secularist Western puppets' was another cause for their invasion. Never a strong military power, Azerbaijan stands little chance against the powerful Iranian military. Senior military analysts working for APP have surmised that what little strength the Azerbaijani military possessed has already been quashed by vastly superior Iranian air power and troop numbers. As more Iranian troops enter the country and entrench themselves in the south around Xankandi, the future for Azerbaijan seems bleak. Analysts strongly agree that the 'real' motivation for Iran's invasion is to capture the Khojavend oil field discovered by a joint American-Azerbaijani expedition five years ago. Having been completed just two months ago, the Khojavend field is estimated to be fifty billion barrels in size and represents the largest find in the south Caucasus. Access to such a large supply would elevate the Iranian energy shortage and act as a huge source of income, should Iran be able to find buyers. As of now international reaction is unknown due to the sheer shock and surprise the Iranians have elicited. The Azerbajani government, still in the capital of Baku which as of yet has not been attacked by the Iranians, has pleaded for the world to send troops to help 'liberate' the country. Russia has officially condemned Iran, severed all diplomatic relations and ceased arms shipments. However with so much of their military either occupied in Chechnya and Georgia or stationed in the Far East with tensions rising in East Asia, it is unknown when or if the Russians might respond with force. European markets became very unstable as word of the invasion broke. The London Stock exchange has fluctuated and world oil prices have increased to almost $75 USD a barrel, prices not seen since the end of the Iraq War in 2010. For the moment all of Eurasia stands on a knife edge as Iran marches into Azerbaijan unopposed. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/fa702a24/attachment.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 22:55:57 2008 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Daniel Garcia) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:55:57 -0400 Subject: [War] France: A Change in the Agenda, Episode I Message-ID: "France: A Change in the Agenda, Episode I" President Pierre Legrand, French Republic April 17, 2014 "Thank you," Pierre Legrand said with a smile as the attendant departed. Legrand carried the tray of refreshments the attendant had brought over to the table where he, his caretaker Prime Minister, Gautier Tessier, and his caretaker Minister of Foreign Affairs, Renaud Perroy, were sitting. Gautier, a stout man of average build was a career politician, and a long time friend of Pierre's. He had briefly worked in the first Legrand administration as Minister of Agriculture, Food, Fishing and Rural Affairs before leaving once the nature of the administration became apparent. Renaud was an average man in every category of appearance, but had spent many years in the French foreign service, stationed at many embassies around the world before entering politics. He was also the oldest man in Legrand's Council of Ministers. "Then, on to business," Legrand said when seated. "So, where exactly has the Amp?re government left us with respect to the Korean crisis?" "Nowhere and no place," Renaud said. "France has made the meekest of statements of encouragement for finding a solution, and little else. By the time the Vladivostok Conference collapsed, the government was in too much trouble to do anything worth doing or saying. Basically, the French government has been in a state of barely ordered chaos for the past month." "I'm spending all my time sorting out feuds that began under Amp?re," Gautier said disgustedly. "Thank you very much, Pierre, for putting me in charge of that mess." Legrand smiled and bowed his head slightly to his old friend. "Who else could I choose? And besides, you're well accomplished in dealing with political infighting, more so than I. And I've largely given you a carte blanche with which to sort things out." Gautier nodded. He had called Legrand that morning to vent about some issue between the Ministries of Agriculture, Food, Fishing and Rural Affairs and of the Environment and Sustainable Development. Legrand had listen patiently, and had said, "That sounds pretty awful. But it's not my fault, and complaining won't put an end to it." Gautier, soothed slightly, agreed and went back to work. Legrand had an uncanny way of soothing others and sending them right along to do what they were or should be doing. "In any case," Legrand continued, "that means that we have complete freedom to act. Of course, that means we have complete freedom to act." "I don't see that there is much for us to do," Renaud said, with a dim smile at Legrand's phrasing of the issue. "I don't think there is much we can do. One, East Asia is a long way from here. Two, it's not clear that there's anything we should be doing. The Chinese have North Korea. Unless they drastically change their minds, or a war starts, they're likely to keep it. We have nothing to do." "And yet there are consequences. The world is much smaller than it used to be," Pierre pointed out gravely. "The CAC 40 is down significantly over the past several weeks. And it's not just our domestic problems," Gautier pointed out. "The insistence of the Americans on toeing a tough line on trade and such matters has rattled financial markets. And with the hope of a negotiated settlement out the window, things look like they'll be getting worse before getting better." "So we need to do something, if only to act to reassure the markets," Legrand said, leaning back in thought. "If we urge restraint on the Americans, how will they react?" "It's hard to tell," Renaud admitted. "President Williams' recent incapacity due to exhaustion could be look upon in several different ways. Certainly, Williams seemed to, shall I say, take on strong positions and believe in them strongly. Possibly it was a factor in his becoming over stressed. That may mean that he is, on doctor's orders, willing to take a softer approach. Or not. It is very complicated, and hard to tell." "Then we should act according to our own lights," Legrand said. "Have our ambassador in Washington urge the Americans to moderate their course, unless they have some miracle idea to change the situation for the better. Let them know our concerns about the markets and how all this is hurting the global economy. We are with them, but we have doubts about the way things are going." "And what about the Chinese," Gautier said. "They're not very popular here at the moment." "I doubt there is much we can do," Renaud said. Legrand nodded in agreement. "But, we must do something, even if we are doomed to fail," Legrand said, standing and walking to a window. "Have our ambassador in Beijing urge them to keep talking. If they try to blame everything on the Americans, point out that it requires more courage to continue to talk in the face of stubbornness than to give up. Also point out that, despite all of the Americans' actions, they plausibly went to Vladivostok to talk. If strong words were expressed by both sides, it was the Chinese who left the Conference without attempting to negotiate." "At best they'll just dismiss that," Renaud pointed out. "At worst they'll be angry with us." "Well, we have low expectations, so we won't be very disappointed," Legrand said. "We should also make clear in public that we stand by the United States, even if we disagree about how to approach the situation. The Chinese are, after all, in occupation of territory not their own with no mandate from the United Nations, and no invitation from the nation whom they are occupying." Legrand turned to the other men. He shrugged in a most gallic fashion with a slight grin. "What do you do when the world decides to go crazy," he said. At that moment there was a knock at the door, after which Legrand's secretary peeked in. "Mr. President, Minister of Defense Commandeur is here. Something has happened in Chechnya," she said. Legrand walked with a quick yet not rushed gait to the door, opening it wide. "Jean-Baptiste, come in," Legrand said to the burly Minister. "What has happened?" Once the door was once again closed and everyone seated, Jean-Baptiste opened the briefcase he had with him and laid out some of the contents on the table. He looked to the other men with a stern look. "Early this morning, in Chechnya, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia armed groups of unknown, but probably separatist, affiliation attacked targets throughout the region," he began. "The violence has been widespread and quite deadly." "What sort of casualties are we talking about here," Gautier asked. "It's hard to say right now. Dozens. Hundreds perhaps," Jean- Baptiste said, picking one particular report to glance at before continuing. "More worryingly, these haven't been just terrorist attacks. Most of the targets have been strictly military, and the Russian army has taken several hard blows." "They're attacking the military," Legrand said in surprise, catching the meaning immediately. "This is a full blown campaign, then? The Chechnyans are trying to force the Russians out?" It was one thing for there to be terrorist attacks against civilians. Those would come and go, and not necessarily affect the stability of the wider region. But if this were a full scale rebellion, then there were likely to be ripple effects throughout the Caucasus. Then, Renaud had a thought. "Did you say that there were also attacks into Abkhazia and South Ossetia? In Georgia," Renaud asked surprised. "Yes," Jean-Baptiste nodded. "We even have sketchy reports of an attack across the Abkhazia border into a portion of Georgia under the government's control." "There are EU peacekeepers in Abkhazia and South Ossetia," Renaud said, stunned. This wasn't just a conflict in another far flung corner of the world. Europe was involved from the get go. Jean- Baptiste spoke up before anyone could ask the inevitable follow up question. "There are no French troops in the region," he said. "Things around here have been too chaotic. The Council of Ministers couldn't agree on whether or not French troops should be sent, so none were. Discussions had started a few days ago about sending troops, probably when troops already there needed to be rotated out, but all that is by the wayside now." "That still leaves us with a big problem," Gautier observed. That there would be no coffins draped with the tricolor was a relief to all involved. Legrand had, after all, only been acting President for a week, and having to deal with dead soldiers was not how he wanted to spend his Presidency. "I think it's safe to assume that the ongoing discussions on the future of Abkhazia and South Ossetia are off," Renaud said. "How bad is it?" "Well," Jean-Baptiste inhaled. "It's hard to say. Perhaps things will return to normal on their own, or the Russians and the EU forces already on the ground will be able to return things to normal quickly. It's too early. We don't even know why this has happened." "Or why it's happened all at once," Legrand offered. "After all, the conflicts in Chechnya and in Georgia aren't very closely related. Perhaps Abkhazia and South Ossetia have reason to rise up, as if I recall the people in charge of the breakaway governments were not very happy at EU involvement or in the prospect of a negotiated settlement." "They felt they were abandoned by the Russians," Renaud interjected. Legrand nodded. "But the Chechnyans had been pacified one way or another. Perhaps I am not very familiar with the region, but why all at once," Legrand asked, brow furrowed. The statement hung there for a minute. "Mr. President," Jean-Baptiste began, "I'd like permission to begin planning to send in French forces to reinforce the European missions in the Caucasus. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs should also open discussions along these lines." "That sounds good," Legrand nodded. Renaud looked slightly peeved at Jean-Baptiste edging in on his own area of responsibility. Legrand smiled gently. "Renaud, open discussions with the rest of the EU. And with the Russians. Try to get everyone to share what information they have, and see what we can do. Also, we should probably make a statement condemning the violence, for all the good it is likely to do." Legrand stood up. With that, the meeting began to disperse, with Renaud rushing off to get the diplomatic side of things moving. Before he got very far, Legrand turned and called to him. "Renaud, don't forget Korea," he said. As he did, he realized that possibly that it would be hard to remember the other crisis if events in the Caucasus went the way they seemed to be going. Then, Legrand walked to Jean-Baptiste and put his hand on the shorter man's shoulder. "Please keep me and Gautier informed of developments. And..." Legrand paused here for a few moments before continuing. "If things get out of hand, and we need to send troops, how many casualties might we suffer?" The question was quiet, soft, and discrete. Jean-Baptiste paused as he considered. "There's no way to tell at this point." Jean-Baptiste then continued his preparations to leave, and Legrand stepped back, hands in his pockets, and deep in thought. His face was largely blank though his wrinkles seemed a bit more prominent. His face softened after a few moments, as he and Gautier stood together near the door, looking after the other two men. Then, they looked at each other, reading each other's thoughts. ACTIONS: 1) Urge the US to moderate their course somewhat. France is concerned about the economics, and nothing seems to be budging the Chinese. 2) Urge the Chinese to budge on North Korea. Ask them to keep talking. 3) France will monitor developments in the Caucasus and begin planning to move troops into the region if need be. France will also urge information sharing between the EU and Russia on the issue. 4) France condemns the armed outbreak in the Caucasus, urging a quick return of order and, in the case of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, a return to negotiations. (OOC: Note that these events take place five days before the Iranian invasion. Thus, it doesn't come up yet.)