From john.penta at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 14:56:30 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:56:30 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Er Message-ID: The pistol Williams pulled from his desk: A sig sauer P226 Navy. Somehow my inner editor missed that.:) From john.penta at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 16:23:09 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:23:09 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Off for the weekend. Message-ID: WAR's burnt my brain. Mike, I didn't write a reply to your letter because I am unendingly tired lately, not any IC reason. Energy just ain't there. So I'm going to try to take the weekend off. Assume Williams accepted the invite to the summit. I'd post about it, but can't focus. Probably won't succeed at the weekend off, but. I'll try. John From dylandv at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 19:22:15 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:22:15 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Allow me Introduce Myself. Message-ID: <763946e70804041622m6ed79b10h77f49104054234c8@mail.gmail.com> Hey everyone, My name is Dylan, as you might guess from my email address. I have since the age of 13 enjoyed reading about politics and I have always loved reading about history since I can remember. I found your website by accident actually :p. I clicked on someone's signature on one of the forums I'm a part of, and I lost the link when my internet crashed, so I typed in World Alliances and Rivalries and guess what came up? Heh. So I contacted the admin address given on the website [I wasn't too impressed with the website, but I figured either they lacked a webmaster or the thing was defunct] and got a really positive response, so I hope that I enjoy my time here as a part of this community and that we can all get along without any unnecessary drama. Currently I graduated from High School last June, and I am looking for a job after travelling for a little bit. I like creative writing, but reading the archives on your website has kind of got me wondering if I'm up to scratch here. But I also get the feeling that most of you have been doing this for a long time while this is the first time I've been involved in a simulation period. Anyways, that's a little about me, I hope we can get to know each other a little more as time progresses. Cheers, Dylan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080404/5bd2c22b/attachment.html From dylandv at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 23:51:58 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:51:58 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 Message-ID: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> This is what I've come up with for Canuck-land with the collaboration of John, hope you like it. Canada 2008-2014 Politics: The year 2008 was a down year for Canadian politicians, struggling to deal with a slowing economy affected by a recession south of the border in America. Although the minority Conservative government was able to stem the tide, their popular ratings in the polls continued to decline as did Prime Minister Stephen Harper's personal ratings. Continuing media coverage of Harper's extreme centralization of power within the Prime Minister's Office [PMO] coincided with public distrust of Conservative motives. While the Conservatives struggled to deal with these issues, the Liberal Party hobbled on, wracked with internal debates, rivalries, and vendettas. Stephane Dion was not able to cement his control of the party and the Liberals continued to prop up the ruling Conservative minority government to give themselves more time to get their act together. By 2009, federal Liberal leader Stephane Dion resigned amid allegations that he was working behind the scenes with the Green Party to share Liberal Party funding with the Greens. The Conservatives introduced legislation in 2009 curtailing immigration and restricting newly arrived immigrants already in the country from receiving citizenship status, which duly passed as the Liberals were in no shape to oppose it. 2010 was marked by the Liberal leadership convention, which elected James McColl as the new federal Liberal leader. He immediately took steps to reduce the infighting that had plagued the party since Jean Chretien left in 2004 by sacking various powerful party members and replacing them with friends. Within 6 months of McColl becoming Liberal leader, the party was rejuvenated and was taking a stand in the House of Commons, with the support of the New Democratic Party [NDP] and Bloc Quebecois [BQ], forcing the Conservatives to the line and respect traditions and customs that had been established throughout the years. 2010 also saw the decision by the federal Conservatives to stay in Afghanistan to help Hamid Karzai's government continue to modernize and train its military and police resources and help with economic projects until 2015, which was extremely unpopular with the general population. 2011 saw wins in several by-elections by the Liberals at the expense of the Conservatives and BQ in Quebec, strengthening their position. 2011 was also a federal election year, as governments may not serve for more than a 5 year term at a time. Although the Liberals, which were much stronger than previously, did not win the election, it soon became clear that no one really had. The Conservatives claimed 115 seats, the Liberals 113, the BQ 45, and the NPD 35. The election was very much about the status of Quebec, for which the Conservatives promised to open up constitutional talks to revise Quebec's status. At this time though, not much attention was given to the Afghanistan issue, where Canadian troops continued to serve in the line of fire and casualties mounted even as the Taliban insurgency had declined since 2009 and the Afghan National Army [ANA] was able to pick up the slack of the foreign troops leaving. Nothing much except squabbling between the parties and a few minor pieces of legislation passed happened in 2012. But by late May 2013, Canadians were sick of the Conservatives, and the Opposition Liberals decided enough was enough, and with the help of the NDP and BQ toppled the government over the spring budget. The Governor-General [GG] called a federal election for November. 8th of that year. The election saw the formerly impressive Conservative election machine falter and the Liberals swept to power in a dramatic victory. The Conservatives were reduced to 68 seats while the Liberals had a massive majority of 171 seats out of 308 in the House of Commons, and a majority in the Senate as well; elsewhere, left-wing parties like the Green Party and NDP had some excellent showing, picking up 46 and 3 seats respectively, while the BQ declined with the issue of Quebec sovereigty declining at the same time. With so many seats, and Liberal leader James McColl coming to power on December.12, 2013, it looked like the Grits were once again set to dominate Canadian politics for years to come. McColl had run on a platform of nationalist, protectionist, and centre-left policies which the Canadian populace found enticing. His policies included such things as agricultural tariffs on products Canadians produced themselves, as well as the forestry and manufacturing sectors, along with promises to build the military, increase post-secondary education and health care spending, were all well received. 2013 was also an important year for the Green Party, which had won 3 seats, its first in any election in Canada, federal or provincial. All in all, a dramatic several years at times. Economy: The Canadian economy continues to grow at a slow rate, since recovering from the hit it took back in 2008/2009/2010. Averaging just 1.7% over the last 5 years, totalling to a GDP of $1.4 trillion, growth has been sluggish and unemployment has reached 9% of the workforce. American mega-corporations and conglomerates moving in for the kill stroke on weak Canadian competitors [because of a strong dollar with retarded exports] and a public perception of the hollowing out of Corporate Canada has become the major economic issue of the day and was an important factor of the Liberal's election in 2013. Coinciding with the election of the Liberals' election, tariffs were expected for industries key to the Canadian economy; long needed in some people's view, the tariffs were needed to keep the struggling manufacturing and forestry sectors going, which are major employers in the Canadian economy. These industries and others had been hit hard by the rise of the loonie to slightly above par status with the American greenback, and takeovers had been rampant in the last several years as the Conservatives had taken a non-interventionist view of the economy. The new government is also expected to start heavily subsidizing green industries as a way of further increasing economic growth, giving people jobs, and giving government money back to the economy. Defense: The Canadian military is in mediocre shape these days, following the stewardship of the Conservative minority government for 5 years; although being a minority government, they could not do as much as they would have liked. The Liberals have promised to the continue the policy of Arctic development of military and transportation infrastructure and have also promised to get Canadian troops out of Afghanistan ASAP to give the military time to recuperate and refresh itself. The Canadian Armed Forces [CAF] is over-stretched manpower-wise and morale remains low with the troops, who do not understand why public support of their mission in Afghanistan is so low. The new government has promised continued rebuilding efforts for the armed forces. Social Issues: Same-sex marriage remains subject to a low-intensity debate after the government legalized it back in the early 2000's. Other than the Netherlands, Canada is the only nation in the world to allow this, and it has caused an influx of American same-sex couples eager to be married, and this has caused a bit of a stir with the populace. Health-care remains a major issue as the population ages and the government struggles to keep up with demand of elective surgeries such as knee and hip replacements. Immigrants under the conservatives suffered, and many immigrant communities in major cities like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Vancouver have become notorious for gangs and high crime rates. Many people are worried that these problems, coupled with the decay of inner city infrastructure in large cities, may lead to an increase in racial discrimination of immigrant minorities by the dominant French/English majorities of the population. On top of these issues, religion has again been on the rise across the country, with the Catholic church the most dominant Christian sect, especially in Quebec, where Catholicism has always been strong. British Columbia on the Pacific coast remains an anomaly [especially compared to hard-right wing Alberta], where over a third of the population is not affiliated to any religion. Health: Canadians were once some of the most obese people on the planet. However, thanks to the leadership of the province of British Columbia and its Premier, Gordon Campbell, the federal government and every province except Alberta instituted various changes in Physical Education [P.E.] classes in the education systems across the country and the federal government began a nation-wide campaign of education against obesity and the importance of exercise and treating your body well. Since 2012, changes have become to be noticed as polls began registering dramatic reductions in obesity throughout the general population, and today Canada now sits in a better position. Health-care policy is now more focussed on prevention that treatment. Foreign Relations: During the years of the Conservative government, Canada snuggled up to the United States more than many Canadians liked. This has caused a surge in the traditional left-wing nationalism of Canada as people have become outraged with corporate takeovers and the public perception that American companies continue to plunder Canada of its resources. Stephen Harper also distanced Canada from Europe as relations cooled with the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Nations was perceived to be an increasingly unnecessary organization. Canada continues to be a member of the UN, but has scaled back its international peacekeeping and aid commitments because of a lack of public support [Canadians over the past few years have retrenched, and a more isolationist foreign policy is gaining momentum among younger Canadians who don't want to deal with the troubles of the world]. As for the Asia-Pacific sphere, Canada has signed an FTA with South Korea some time ago, although this is its only recent Free Trade agreement. Relations with China are sour due to Canada's stance on human rights abuses by the Chinese. Relations with other east Asian and south Asian nations are neutral and not noteworthy. Canada has also seen, with increase of Russian immigrants, an interest in an FTA with the Russian Federation, which is opposed by the more isolationist elements of the political class. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080404/2e837d46/attachment.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 07:03:33 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:33:33 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> This ignores a lot of continuity that's already occurred in-game. I suggest reading some of the posts here: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_esteroic.com/ Unless Pat is retconning all that, of course. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Dylan de Valk wrote: > This is what I've come up with for Canuck-land with the collaboration of > John, hope you like it. > > Canada 2008-2014 > > > Politics: > > The year 2008 was a down year for Canadian politicians, struggling to deal > with a slowing economy affected by a recession south of the border in > America. Although the minority Conservative government was able to stem the > tide, their popular ratings in the polls continued to decline as did Prime > Minister Stephen Harper's personal ratings. Continuing media coverage of > Harper's extreme centralization of power within the Prime Minister's Office > [PMO] coincided with public distrust of Conservative motives. > > While the Conservatives struggled to deal with these issues, the Liberal > Party hobbled on, wracked with internal debates, rivalries, and vendettas. > Stephane Dion was not able to cement his control of the party and the > Liberals continued to prop up the ruling Conservative minority government to > give themselves more time to get their act together. > > By 2009, federal Liberal leader Stephane Dion resigned amid allegations > that he was working behind the scenes with the Green Party to share Liberal > Party funding with the Greens. The Conservatives introduced legislation in > 2009 curtailing immigration and restricting newly arrived immigrants already > in the country from receiving citizenship status, which duly passed as the > Liberals were in no shape to oppose it. > > 2010 was marked by the Liberal leadership convention, which elected James > McColl as the new federal Liberal leader. He immediately took steps to > reduce the infighting that had plagued the party since Jean Chretien left in > 2004 by sacking various powerful party members and replacing them with > friends. Within 6 months of McColl becoming Liberal leader, the party was > rejuvenated and was taking a stand in the House of Commons, with the support > of the New Democratic Party [NDP] and Bloc Quebecois [BQ], forcing the > Conservatives to the line and respect traditions and customs that had been > established throughout the years. 2010 also saw the decision by the > federal Conservatives to stay in Afghanistan to help Hamid Karzai's > government continue to modernize and train its military and police resources > and help with economic projects until 2015, which was extremely unpopular > with the general population. > > 2011 saw wins in several by-elections by the Liberals at the expense of > the Conservatives and BQ in Quebec, strengthening their position. 2011 was > also a federal election year, as governments may not serve for more than a 5 > year term at a time. Although the Liberals, which were much stronger than > previously, did not win the election, it soon became clear that no one > really had. The Conservatives claimed 115 seats, the Liberals 113, the BQ > 45, and the NPD 35. The election was very much about the status of Quebec, > for which the Conservatives promised to open up constitutional talks to > revise Quebec's status. At this time though, not much attention was given > to the Afghanistan issue, where Canadian troops continued to serve in the > line of fire and casualties mounted even as the Taliban insurgency had > declined since 2009 and the Afghan National Army [ANA] was able to pick up > the slack of the foreign troops leaving. > > Nothing much except squabbling between the parties and a few minor pieces > of legislation passed happened in 2012. But by late May 2013, Canadians > were sick of the Conservatives, and the Opposition Liberals decided enough > was enough, and with the help of the NDP and BQ toppled the government over > the spring budget. The Governor-General [GG] called a federal election for > November. 8th of that year. The election saw the formerly impressive > Conservative election machine falter and the Liberals swept to power in a > dramatic victory. The Conservatives were reduced to 68 seats while the > Liberals had a massive majority of 171 seats out of 308 in the House of > Commons, and a majority in the Senate as well; elsewhere, left-wing parties > like the Green Party and NDP had some excellent showing, picking up 46 and 3 > seats respectively, while the BQ declined with the issue of Quebec > sovereigty declining at the same time. With so many seats, and Liberal > leader James McColl coming to power on December.12, 2013, it looked like the > Grits were once again set to dominate Canadian politics for years to come. > McColl had run on a platform of nationalist, protectionist, and centre-left > policies which the Canadian populace found enticing. His policies included > such things as agricultural tariffs on products Canadians produced > themselves, as well as the forestry and manufacturing sectors, along with > promises to build the military, increase post-secondary education and health > care spending, were all well received. 2013 was also an important year for > the Green Party, which had won 3 seats, its first in any election in Canada, > federal or provincial. > > All in all, a dramatic several years at times. > > Economy: > > The Canadian economy continues to grow at a slow rate, since recovering > from the hit it took back in 2008/2009/2010. Averaging just 1.7% over the > last 5 years, totalling to a GDP of $1.4 trillion, growth has been sluggish > and unemployment has reached 9% of the workforce. American > mega-corporations and conglomerates moving in for the kill stroke on weak > Canadian competitors [because of a strong dollar with retarded exports] and > a public perception of the hollowing out of Corporate Canada has become the > major economic issue of the day and was an important factor of the Liberal's > election in 2013. Coinciding with the election of the Liberals' election, > tariffs were expected for industries key to the Canadian economy; long > needed in some people's view, the tariffs were needed to keep the struggling > manufacturing and forestry sectors going, which are major employers in the > Canadian economy. These industries and others had been hit hard by the rise > of the loonie to slightly above par status with the American greenback, and > takeovers had been rampant in the last several years as the Conservatives > had taken a non-interventionist view of the economy. The new government is > also expected to start heavily subsidizing green industries as a way of > further increasing economic growth, giving people jobs, and giving > government money back to the economy. > > Defense: > > The Canadian military is in mediocre shape these days, following the > stewardship of the Conservative minority government for 5 years; although > being a minority government, they could not do as much as they would have > liked. The Liberals have promised to the continue the policy of Arctic > development of military and transportation infrastructure and have also > promised to get Canadian troops out of Afghanistan ASAP to give the military > time to recuperate and refresh itself. The Canadian Armed Forces [CAF] is > over-stretched manpower-wise and morale remains low with the troops, who do > not understand why public support of their mission in Afghanistan is so > low. The new government has promised continued rebuilding efforts for the > armed forces. > > Social Issues: > > Same-sex marriage remains subject to a low-intensity debate after the > government legalized it back in the early 2000's. Other than the > Netherlands, Canada is the only nation in the world to allow this, and it > has caused an influx of American same-sex couples eager to be married, and > this has caused a bit of a stir with the populace. Health-care remains a > major issue as the population ages and the government struggles to keep up > with demand of elective surgeries such as knee and hip replacements. > Immigrants under the conservatives suffered, and many immigrant communities > in major cities like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Vancouver have become > notorious for gangs and high crime rates. Many people are worried that > these problems, coupled with the decay of inner city infrastructure in large > cities, may lead to an increase in racial discrimination of immigrant > minorities by the dominant French/English majorities of the population. On > top of these issues, religion has again been on the rise across the country, > with the Catholic church the most dominant Christian sect, especially in > Quebec, where Catholicism has always been strong. British Columbia on the > Pacific coast remains an anomaly [especially compared to hard-right wing > Alberta], where over a third of the population is not affiliated to any > religion. > > Health: > > Canadians were once some of the most obese people on the planet. However, > thanks to the leadership of the province of British Columbia and its > Premier, Gordon Campbell, the federal government and every province except > Alberta instituted various changes in Physical Education [P.E.] classes in > the education systems across the country and the federal government began a > nation-wide campaign of education against obesity and the importance of > exercise and treating your body well. Since 2012, changes have become to be > noticed as polls began registering dramatic reductions in obesity throughout > the general population, and today Canada now sits in a better position. > Health-care policy is now more focussed on prevention that treatment. > > Foreign Relations: > > During the years of the Conservative government, Canada snuggled up to the > United States more than many Canadians liked. This has caused a surge in > the traditional left-wing nationalism of Canada as people have become > outraged with corporate takeovers and the public perception that American > companies continue to plunder Canada of its resources. Stephen Harper also > distanced Canada from Europe as relations cooled with the United Kingdom and > the Commonwealth of Nations was perceived to be an increasingly unnecessary > organization. Canada continues to be a member of the UN, but has scaled > back its international peacekeeping and aid commitments because of a lack of > public support [Canadians over the past few years have retrenched, and a > more isolationist foreign policy is gaining momentum among younger Canadians > who don't want to deal with the troubles of the world]. As for the > Asia-Pacific sphere, Canada has signed an FTA with South Korea some time > ago, although this is its only recent Free Trade agreement. Relations with > China are sour due to Canada's stance on human rights abuses by the > Chinese. Relations with other east Asian and south Asian nations are > neutral and not noteworthy. Canada has also seen, with increase of Russian > immigrants, an interest in an FTA with the Russian Federation, which is > opposed by the more isolationist elements of the political class. > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/2ecd652c/attachment-0001.html From pbuck11 at aol.com Sat Apr 5 11:31:55 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:31:55 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> I'm gonan retcon and let our new Canadian overlord run with it, Basically if a country is vacant and someone wants it, unless they violate the crack test, I'm going to allow retcons. > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com From dylandv at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 13:24:51 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:24:51 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, I haven't had a chance to read everything yet, and I was assured by John that it was good, he read it about 4 times as I did various drafts because I *did* want it to be good. If anyone has a problem with it, let me know what it is and I'll fix the inconsistency. I don't have any problems with that, but just saying something is wrong and not letting me know what it is, that is not helpful. On that note, Cheers, Dylan On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Patrick B wrote: > I'm gonan retcon and let our new Canadian overlord run with it, > Basically if a country is vacant and someone wants it, unless they > violate the crack test, I'm going to allow retcons. > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/5e67b311/attachment.html From pbuck11 at aol.com Sat Apr 5 13:32:59 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:32:59 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> DUde, don't worry you're retconned.... post when ready. It's good to go. From dylandv at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 14:04:09 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:04:09 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> Alright, thanks for the go-signal, but was does retconned mean? On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Patrick B wrote: > DUde, don't worry you're retconned.... post when ready. > > It's good to go. > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/fb2a5ae2/attachment.html From pbuck11 at aol.com Sat Apr 5 14:05:44 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:05:44 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F7BF78.2000905@aol.com> Basically I'm using what you wrote as the history of Canada.... Go nuts dude.... just no invading Montana please :-D Well only if you bring Tim Hortons. From dylandv at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 14:14:28 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:14:28 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <47F7BF78.2000905@aol.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> <47F7BF78.2000905@aol.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804051114m70eef5dey5d958d42c2b33435@mail.gmail.com> haha, how about Puget Sound? :D And dont you worry, I'll even bring along the HBC so you can shop at your pleasure in the montana hillbilly-land! [ok, i admit that was overkill]. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Patrick B wrote: > Basically I'm using what you wrote as the history of Canada.... > > Go nuts dude.... just no invading Montana please :-D Well only if you > bring Tim Hortons. > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/748c3590/attachment.html From pbuck11 at aol.com Sat Apr 5 14:15:47 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:15:47 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <763946e70804051114m70eef5dey5d958d42c2b33435@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> <47F7BF78.2000905@aol.com> <763946e70804051114m70eef5dey5d958d42c2b33435@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F7C1D3.4030401@aol.com> You can invade detroit..... From john.penta at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 14:16:22 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 14:16:22 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <763946e70804051114m70eef5dey5d958d42c2b33435@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> <47F7BF78.2000905@aol.com> <763946e70804051114m70eef5dey5d958d42c2b33435@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Okay, the jokes have gone bad, don't hurt us. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Dylan de Valk wrote: > haha, how about Puget Sound? :D And dont you worry, I'll even bring along > the HBC so you can shop at your pleasure in the montana hillbilly-land! [ok, > i admit that was overkill]. > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Patrick B wrote: > > Basically I'm using what you wrote as the history of Canada.... > > > > Go nuts dude.... just no invading Montana please :-D Well only if you > > bring Tim Hortons. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > From dylandv at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 14:22:24 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:22:24 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> <47F7BF78.2000905@aol.com> <763946e70804051114m70eef5dey5d958d42c2b33435@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804051122y54679344if12d2a8bcd78831@mail.gmail.com> i wasnt planning on invading anyone in all truthfullness... On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, John Penta wrote: > Okay, the jokes have gone bad, don't hurt us. > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Dylan de Valk wrote: > > haha, how about Puget Sound? :D And dont you worry, I'll even bring > along > > the HBC so you can shop at your pleasure in the montana hillbilly-land! > [ok, > > i admit that was overkill]. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Patrick B wrote: > > > Basically I'm using what you wrote as the history of Canada.... > > > > > > Go nuts dude.... just no invading Montana please :-D Well only if you > > > bring Tim Hortons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080405/cde85b4b/attachment.html From pbuck11 at aol.com Sat Apr 5 14:23:28 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:23:28 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] Canada 2008-2014 In-Reply-To: <763946e70804051122y54679344if12d2a8bcd78831@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804042051q71924b54t83fda75a294f9833@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804050403p7b0efdf6mf6c6de3a9ccfc5ce@mail.gmail.com> <47F79B6B.4@aol.com> <763946e70804051024k7c8c1958s2e8a40057e34c207@mail.gmail.com> <47F7B7CB.3060406@aol.com> <763946e70804051104m73853971k6a2b285e3a2099dc@mail.gmail.com> <47F7BF78.2000905@aol.com> <763946e70804051114m70eef5dey5d958d42c2b33435@mail.gmail.com> <763946e70804051122y54679344if12d2a8bcd78831@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F7C3A0.9070908@aol.com> Good, Well the jokes have died out so let's get posting. From john.penta at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 09:56:38 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:56:38 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... Message-ID: To announce: Chris Hazen, the player behind China, has been accepted to Seton Hall Law School, where he starts in the fall. Congrats, Chris. From martellian at hotmail.com Tue Apr 8 11:16:11 2008 From: martellian at hotmail.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:16:11 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... References: Message-ID: Congrats Chris! ----- Original Message ----- From: John Penta To: war_ooc at esteroic.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:56 AM Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... To announce: Chris Hazen, the player behind China, has been accepted to Seton Hall Law School, where he starts in the fall. Congrats, Chris. _______________________________________________ War_ooc mailing list War_ooc at esteroic.com http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080408/b631b29f/attachment.html From pbuck11 at aol.com Tue Apr 8 11:54:29 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:54:29 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47FB9535.6040902@aol.com> Just what the world needs more damned lawyers.... Just kidding congrats Chris... best of luck From dylandv at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 13:43:19 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:43:19 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... In-Reply-To: <47FB9535.6040902@aol.com> References: <47FB9535.6040902@aol.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804081043q344f4748m9350cd4b2ff63de6@mail.gmail.com> Hey congrats man... watch out for the workaholic syndrome afterwards though... I've got 5 lawyers in my famdamily. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Patrick B wrote: > Just what the world needs more damned lawyers.... > > Just kidding congrats Chris... best of luck > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080408/99052b3e/attachment.html From dylandv at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 13:43:19 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:43:19 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... In-Reply-To: <47FB9535.6040902@aol.com> References: <47FB9535.6040902@aol.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804081043q344f4748m9350cd4b2ff63de6@mail.gmail.com> Hey congrats man... watch out for the workaholic syndrome afterwards though... I've got 5 lawyers in my famdamily. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Patrick B wrote: > Just what the world needs more damned lawyers.... > > Just kidding congrats Chris... best of luck > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080408/99052b3e/attachment-0001.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 8 16:14:37 2008 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Dan Garcia) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <819993.90722.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> So, you've finally been suckered into post-Bachelor's education, too, huh Chris? ;) Congrats. Dan --- John Penta wrote: > To announce: > > Chris Hazen, the player behind China, has been accepted to Seton Hall > Law School, where he starts in the fall. > > Congrats, Chris. > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Tue Apr 8 20:39:49 2008 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:39:49 EDT Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... Message-ID: Haven't decided if I'm actually going there, but I know I'm going 'somewhere'. It's been a long 3 years :-p **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080408/e130d447/attachment.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 8 21:27:07 2008 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Dan Garcia) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [War_ooc] We would like to interrupt this broadcast... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <409861.19162.qm@web65604.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Knowing that you're going *somewhere* is one of the greatest reliefs to come from any school application process. :) Daniel Garcia --- Chazenesq2b at aol.com wrote: > Haven't decided if I'm actually going there, but I know I'm going > 'somewhere'. It's been a long 3 years :-p > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From starexcess at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 22:45:11 2008 From: starexcess at gmail.com (Mandy Sinclaire) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:45:11 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Introduction! Message-ID: <467047780804131945oe1b08b1yfd10dd24ccb4f5e5@mail.gmail.com> Hi there! My name is Mandy and I was told I should introduce myself to the list. I'm not sure what to say about myself, really. I'll be playing for Germany, and I'm a 23 year old student in new media design/industrial design, with anthropological and political interests. I won't be active much for about a week, as I'm getting over bronchitis, but once I'm over that - I'll start posting as necessary to get right into the game! I can't wait to meet each of you and interact and have lots of fun. My contact info, as necessary, is: EMAIL: starexcess at gmail.com LIVEJOURNAL: foozled_up AIM: kamehamepwned GCHAT: starexcess at gmail.com Thanks, Mandy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080413/7b678832/attachment.html From dylandv at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 23:38:50 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:38:50 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Introduction! In-Reply-To: <467047780804131945oe1b08b1yfd10dd24ccb4f5e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <467047780804131945oe1b08b1yfd10dd24ccb4f5e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804132038y5ab6736bvab2cd3f0da665eb3@mail.gmail.com> Heya, Welcome aboard, I'm the other resident n00b, so maybe we can plot the destruction of the great powers :D [/jk]. I play Canada, so if you need anything, just let me know. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Cheers, Dylan On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Mandy Sinclaire wrote: > Hi there! My name is Mandy and I was told I should introduce myself to the > list. I'm not sure what to say about myself, really. I'll be playing for > Germany, and I'm a 23 year old student in new media design/industrial > design, with anthropological and political interests. I won't be active much > for about a week, as I'm getting over bronchitis, but once I'm over that - > I'll start posting as necessary to get right into the game! I can't wait to > meet each of you and interact and have lots of fun. > > My contact info, as necessary, is: > > EMAIL: starexcess at gmail.com > LIVEJOURNAL: foozled_up > AIM: kamehamepwned > GCHAT: starexcess at gmail.com > > Thanks, > Mandy > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080413/ae9c08eb/attachment.html From dylandv at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 18:37:32 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:37:32 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] when...? Message-ID: <763946e70804161537s2bfe0087l4fa354f851f55954@mail.gmail.com> So when is this fabled "World Report' going to be ready? As I remember, pat said it would be ready on the weekend, but that was three days ago. :p Cheers, Dylan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080416/ebb2ad63/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 18:47:39 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:47:39 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] when...? In-Reply-To: <763946e70804161537s2bfe0087l4fa354f851f55954@mail.gmail.com> References: <763946e70804161537s2bfe0087l4fa354f851f55954@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: He's had bronchitis, give him time. Or face the Ebola Monkeys. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Dylan de Valk wrote: > So when is this fabled "World Report' going to be ready? As I remember, pat > said it would be ready on the weekend, but that was three days ago. :p > > Cheers, > > Dylan > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > From dylandv at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 20:35:50 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:35:50 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] when...? In-Reply-To: References: <763946e70804161537s2bfe0087l4fa354f851f55954@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804161735w22712d1fl6d237c16cf800ae7@mail.gmail.com> I see, well then, I wish you a "Get-well-soon" card. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:47 PM, John Penta wrote: > He's had bronchitis, give him time. Or face the Ebola Monkeys. > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Dylan de Valk wrote: > > So when is this fabled "World Report' going to be ready? As I remember, > pat > > said it would be ready on the weekend, but that was three days ago. :p > > > > Cheers, > > > > Dylan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080416/a6451bcb/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 11:29:25 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:29:25 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] [War] Drinking in Congress In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804180808g24b36b89kc2e6e80062128d9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804180808g24b36b89kc2e6e80062128d9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You should ask on WAR_OOC for one. I assume you mean on the floor of either chamber. In that case...I can't find the rules, but I believe not. I have, however, emailed the Clerk of the House to check. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Michael Downey wrote: > This may sound like a strange question, but can you drink in Congress? > > _______________________________________________ > War mailing list > War at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 12:39:10 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:09:10 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] [War] Drinking in Congress In-Reply-To: References: <6b6ab8a70804180808g24b36b89kc2e6e80062128d9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804180939u3912886cp322b102132d603cf@mail.gmail.com> I'm just curious because you could do so in the House of Commons up until a few years ago and apparently still can in the British House. I just found that very surprising. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM, John Penta wrote: > You should ask on WAR_OOC for one. > > I assume you mean on the floor of either chamber. > > In that case...I can't find the rules, but I believe not. > > I have, however, emailed the Clerk of the House to check. > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Michael Downey > wrote: > > This may sound like a strange question, but can you drink in Congress? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War mailing list > > War at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From john.penta at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 21:45:28 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:45:28 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] [War] Drinking in Congress In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804180939u3912886cp322b102132d603cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804180808g24b36b89kc2e6e80062128d9a@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804180939u3912886cp322b102132d603cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > I'm just curious because you could do so in the House of Commons up > until a few years ago and apparently still can in the British House. I > just found that very surprising. The assumption used to be that lawmakers could hold their liquor. This was in spite of the abundance of evidence to the contrary.:) From john.penta at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 10:06:11 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:06:11 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! Message-ID: Okay, recent events put this in my head. We need a new name. We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. I think our name should reflect that. Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a pretty successful jump to 2013-14). From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 10:49:32 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:19:32 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta wrote: > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > We need a new name. > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > I think our name should reflect that. > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a pretty > successful jump to 2013-14). > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From john.penta at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 10:56:48 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:56:48 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: *tries it out* Hmm. Sounds good, too easy to misspell. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Michael Downey wrote: > 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta wrote: > > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > > > We need a new name. > > > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > > > I think our name should reflect that. > > > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a pretty > > successful jump to 2013-14). > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Sat Apr 19 11:08:41 2008 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:08:41 EDT Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! Message-ID: It's WAR **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080419/f2787516/attachment.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 11:11:16 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:41:16 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804190811n28f11456y7eea58d2e1e7e8be@mail.gmail.com> 'Future Hyper Political Game of Happy Interest' On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:38 PM, wrote: > > > It's WAR > > > ________________________________ > Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at > AOL Autos. > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > From Chazenesq2b at aol.com Sat Apr 19 11:12:26 2008 From: Chazenesq2b at aol.com (Chazenesq2b at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:12:26 EDT Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! Message-ID: LOL, you need to find a way to add Honorable into that **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080419/86998934/attachment.html From vampi.digitalwytch at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 12:14:34 2008 From: vampi.digitalwytch at gmail.com (Vampi Digitalwytch) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:14:34 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Considering we've (or at least me) have managed to misspell the email addy for the group, Geopolitika is easier to not misspell. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, John Penta wrote: > *tries it out* Hmm. Sounds good, too easy to misspell. > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Michael Downey > wrote: > > 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta wrote: > > > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > > > > > We need a new name. > > > > > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > > > > > I think our name should reflect that. > > > > > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a pretty > > > successful jump to 2013-14). > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -- --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. From john.penta at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 12:42:29 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:42:29 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Honestly, if we used the proper name of the group more (World Alliances and Rivalries, not WAR), it would probably help in the asdvertising...WAR sounds like a shootemup. We're more chesslike.:) John On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Vampi Digitalwytch wrote: > Considering we've (or at least me) have managed to misspell the email > addy for the group, Geopolitika is easier to not misspell. > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, John Penta wrote: > > *tries it out* Hmm. Sounds good, too easy to misspell. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Michael Downey > > wrote: > > > 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta wrote: > > > > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > > > > > > > We need a new name. > > > > > > > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > > > > > > > I think our name should reflect that. > > > > > > > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a pretty > > > > successful jump to 2013-14). > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > -- > --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there > ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 13:16:21 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:46:21 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804191016l637d8aat5241a87c06e3829c@mail.gmail.com> Problem solved then. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, John Penta wrote: > Honestly, if we used the proper name of the group more (World > Alliances and Rivalries, not WAR), it would probably help in the > asdvertising...WAR sounds like a shootemup. We're more chesslike.:) > > John > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Vampi Digitalwytch > wrote: > > Considering we've (or at least me) have managed to misspell the email > > addy for the group, Geopolitika is easier to not misspell. > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, John Penta wrote: > > > *tries it out* Hmm. Sounds good, too easy to misspell. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Michael Downey > > > wrote: > > > > 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta wrote: > > > > > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > > > > > > > > > We need a new name. > > > > > > > > > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > > > > > > > > > I think our name should reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a pretty > > > > > successful jump to 2013-14). > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there > > ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From dylandv at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 14:09:07 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:09:07 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804191016l637d8aat5241a87c06e3829c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804191016l637d8aat5241a87c06e3829c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804191109o12f1494dv4a00b4320abc8476@mail.gmail.com> what about "Realpolitik'? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Michael Downey < michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com> wrote: > Problem solved then. > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, John Penta wrote: > > Honestly, if we used the proper name of the group more (World > > Alliances and Rivalries, not WAR), it would probably help in the > > asdvertising...WAR sounds like a shootemup. We're more chesslike.:) > > > > John > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Vampi Digitalwytch > > wrote: > > > Considering we've (or at least me) have managed to misspell the email > > > addy for the group, Geopolitika is easier to not misspell. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, John Penta > wrote: > > > > *tries it out* Hmm. Sounds good, too easy to misspell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Michael Downey > > > > wrote: > > > > > 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta < > john.penta at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > We need a new name. > > > > > > > > > > > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think our name should reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a > pretty > > > > > > successful jump to 2013-14). > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there > > > ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080419/24ed76dd/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 14:19:46 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:19:46 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: <763946e70804191109o12f1494dv4a00b4320abc8476@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804191016l637d8aat5241a87c06e3829c@mail.gmail.com> <763946e70804191109o12f1494dv4a00b4320abc8476@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Implies more, uh, realism than has ever worked here.:) On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Dylan de Valk wrote: > what about "Realpolitik'? > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Michael Downey > wrote: > > Problem solved then. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, John Penta wrote: > > > Honestly, if we used the proper name of the group more (World > > > Alliances and Rivalries, not WAR), it would probably help in the > > > asdvertising...WAR sounds like a shootemup. We're more chesslike.:) > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Vampi Digitalwytch > > > wrote: > > > > Considering we've (or at least me) have managed to misspell the email > > > > addy for the group, Geopolitika is easier to not misspell. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, John Penta > wrote: > > > > > *tries it out* Hmm. Sounds good, too easy to misspell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Michael Downey > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta > wrote: > > > > > > > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need a new name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think our name should reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a > pretty > > > > > > > successful jump to 2013-14). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there > > > > ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 15:39:28 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:09:28 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804191016l637d8aat5241a87c06e3829c@mail.gmail.com> <763946e70804191109o12f1494dv4a00b4320abc8476@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804191239y7b25d848yf15ba90785f5d1f9@mail.gmail.com> To be honest I think World Alliances and Rivalries is fine. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM, John Penta wrote: > Implies more, uh, realism than has ever worked here.:) > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Dylan de Valk wrote: > > what about "Realpolitik'? > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Michael Downey > > wrote: > > > Problem solved then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, John Penta wrote: > > > > Honestly, if we used the proper name of the group more (World > > > > Alliances and Rivalries, not WAR), it would probably help in the > > > > asdvertising...WAR sounds like a shootemup. We're more chesslike.:) > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Vampi Digitalwytch > > > > wrote: > > > > > Considering we've (or at least me) have managed to misspell the email > > > > > addy for the group, Geopolitika is easier to not misspell. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, John Penta > > wrote: > > > > > > *tries it out* Hmm. Sounds good, too easy to misspell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Michael Downey > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > 'Geopolitika' has a nice ring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, John Penta > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay, recent events put this in my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need a new name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We do so much more, so many other crises, than wars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think our name should reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Global Crisis, or Stormy Future (to reflect what has been a > > pretty > > > > > > > > successful jump to 2013-14). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --I know there are no lifeguards in the gene pool, but damn, there > > > > > ought to be at least a few sharks in the water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From pbuck11 at aol.com Sat Apr 19 15:46:27 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:46:27 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804191239y7b25d848yf15ba90785f5d1f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804191016l637d8aat5241a87c06e3829c@mail.gmail.com> <763946e70804191109o12f1494dv4a00b4320abc8476@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804191239y7b25d848yf15ba90785f5d1f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480A4C13.1040904@aol.com> Ok, we are now rearranging deck chairs on the titantic, it was called WAR, let's just keep it bloody damned WAR. And John, there is nothing wrong with conflict, like a warfare, only if done right, the reason wars usually sucked in WAR was the crew ended up lobbing nukes back and forth within 6 posts and some how the US and the UK ended up at each other's throats. I leave you with the 34th rule of Acquisition: War is good for business. From dylandv at gmail.com Sun Apr 20 16:20:41 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:20:41 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] A thought: Rename the game! In-Reply-To: <480A4C13.1040904@aol.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804190749p4d88f031ke4230b85c98a0b9f@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804191016l637d8aat5241a87c06e3829c@mail.gmail.com> <763946e70804191109o12f1494dv4a00b4320abc8476@mail.gmail.com> <6b6ab8a70804191239y7b25d848yf15ba90785f5d1f9@mail.gmail.com> <480A4C13.1040904@aol.com> Message-ID: <763946e70804201320x7b686b95pf9d27bf3c7abcec6@mail.gmail.com> "I leave you with the 34th rule of Acquisition: War is good for business." Agreed. But yea, I do like World Alliances and Rivalries. The other names that came up were good too, but then we would have a mismatched website. And that would make a problem worse. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Patrick B wrote: > Ok, we are now rearranging deck chairs on the titantic, it was called > WAR, let's just keep it bloody damned WAR. > > And John, there is nothing wrong with conflict, like a warfare, only if > done right, the reason wars usually sucked in WAR was the crew ended up > lobbing nukes back and forth within 6 posts and some how the US and the > UK ended up at each other's throats. > > I leave you with the 34th rule of Acquisition: War is good for business. > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080420/2f69110c/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 10:07:41 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:07:41 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Where the hell is everybody? Message-ID: I'm the only one that's posted since the WR? Makes me sad. :( :( :( I FROWNY FACE AT YOU NON-POSTERS! Where is everybody? I know Mandy has a busted laptop and is sick, but where are the rest of you?:) From dylandv at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 17:42:09 2008 From: dylandv at gmail.com (Dylan de Valk) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:42:09 -0700 Subject: [War_ooc] Where the hell is everybody? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <763946e70804241442g62118160hfbf986e61f628784@mail.gmail.com> I havent posted because im letting ideas swish around inside my head. I started a piece last night, but I didnt get around to finishing it. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:07 AM, John Penta wrote: > I'm the only one that's posted since the WR? > > Makes me sad. > > :( :( :( > > I FROWNY FACE AT YOU NON-POSTERS! > > Where is everybody? I know Mandy has a busted laptop and is sick, but > where are the rest of you?:) > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080424/cc3725de/attachment.html From alantang999 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 29 16:00:24 2008 From: alantang999 at hotmail.com (Alan Tang) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:00:24 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Where the hell is everybody? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used to be an active player and played South Korea and Taiwan. I'd like to reapply back into the game with school over and such. Can anyone contact me for possible arrangements? My email is commieb at hotmail.com. Cheers,> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:07:41 -0400> From: john.penta at gmail.com> To: war_ooc at esteroic.com> Subject: [War_ooc] Where the hell is everybody?> > I'm the only one that's posted since the WR?> > Makes me sad.> > :( :( :(> > I FROWNY FACE AT YOU NON-POSTERS!> > Where is everybody? I know Mandy has a busted laptop and is sick, but> where are the rest of you?:)> > _______________________________________________> War_ooc mailing list> War_ooc at esteroic.com> http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080429/0a0e6060/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 15:19:02 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:19:02 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Italy, you've been replaced... Message-ID: ...By France for the "revolving government" award. How pathetic.:) John From pbuck11 at aol.com Wed Apr 30 15:20:14 2008 From: pbuck11 at aol.com (Patrick B) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:20:14 -0600 Subject: [War_ooc] Italy, you've been replaced... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4818C66E.3020709@aol.com> THough this IS WAR, and let's face it governments here change at the drop of a hat, I think the US had 5 presidents in a year once, or was that a week. From john.penta at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 15:24:14 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:24:14 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Italy, you've been replaced... In-Reply-To: <4818C66E.3020709@aol.com> References: <4818C66E.3020709@aol.com> Message-ID: Hence the references in my inauguration post to red and to life insurance premiums going up.:) On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Patrick B wrote: > THough this IS WAR, and let's face it governments here change at the > drop of a hat, I think the US had 5 presidents in a year once, or was > that a week. > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > From john.penta at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 19:36:00 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:36:00 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Um, nice. Message-ID: Mike, Your Iran invasion made about my last week's posting nonsensical....Did you mean for it to happen 22 March? Especially since the WR advanced things to 12-18 April. John From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 19:42:49 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:12:49 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] Um, nice. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> That was a date screwup on my part, I apologize. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:06 PM, John Penta wrote: > Mike, > > Your Iran invasion made about my last week's posting > nonsensical....Did you mean for it to happen 22 March? > > Especially since the WR advanced things to 12-18 April. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/e69ac3dc/attachment.html From john.penta at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 19:44:41 2008 From: john.penta at gmail.com (John Penta) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:44:41 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Um, nice. In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the clatification.:) On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > That was a date screwup on my part, I apologize. > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:06 PM, John Penta wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > Your Iran invasion made about my last week's posting > > nonsensical....Did you mean for it to happen 22 March? > > > > Especially since the WR advanced things to 12-18 April. > > > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 19:47:32 2008 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Daniel Garcia) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:47:32 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] [War] Special Report: "Iran Invades Azerbaijan" In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804301449v72810620g615c4dd8bd5b6105@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804301449v72810620g615c4dd8bd5b6105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ah, um, what a pleasant thing to wake up to. In any case, might I ask if the date (this post is dated 22 March) is off a bit. Actually, looking at the past couple WRs, what's the date anyhow? I dated my return post by looking at Dylan and John's posts. The last WR is consistent with these dates (mid-April), but we seemingly jumped the better part of a month since Vladivostok (and the previous WR). So, uh, what's the real date and who screwed up? Dan On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > Iran Invades Azerbaijan > > 22 March 2014 APP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/0267b98c/attachment.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 19:50:57 2008 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Daniel Garcia) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:50:57 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Um, nice. In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <367F34A1-8A4D-4C5B-9025-FFD3587F0542@yahoo.com> So the Iranian invasion takes place on what day? And given John's post, you can disregard my earlier one... Dan On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > That was a date screwup on my part, I apologize. > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:06 PM, John Penta > wrote: > Mike, > > Your Iran invasion made about my last week's posting > nonsensical....Did you mean for it to happen 22 March? > > Especially since the WR advanced things to 12-18 April. > > John > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/ded16039/attachment.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 19:56:38 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:26:38 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] Um, nice. In-Reply-To: <367F34A1-8A4D-4C5B-9025-FFD3587F0542@yahoo.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> <367F34A1-8A4D-4C5B-9025-FFD3587F0542@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804301656q70a04c86ub8140f895791149f@mail.gmail.com> Iran invades Azerbaijan on April 22nd, 2014 EST. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Daniel Garcia wrote: > So the Iranian invasion takes place on what day? And given John's post, > you can disregard my earlier one... > > Dan > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > > That was a date screwup on my part, I apologize. > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:06 PM, John Penta wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > Your Iran invasion made about my last week's posting > > nonsensical....Did you mean for it to happen 22 March? > > > > Especially since the WR advanced things to 12-18 April. > > > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/fc0cfc6a/attachment.html From ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 20:07:32 2008 From: ssiruuk25 at yahoo.com (Daniel Garcia) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:07:32 -0400 Subject: [War_ooc] Um, nice. In-Reply-To: <6b6ab8a70804301656q70a04c86ub8140f895791149f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> <367F34A1-8A4D-4C5B-9025-FFD3587F0542@yahoo.com> <6b6ab8a70804301656q70a04c86ub8140f895791149f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7888A6AD-4CC6-43B3-986A-A662127D2AD9@yahoo.com> Sorry to keep needling, are the other posts similarly moved into April, or do they remain where they are, or something else? Dan On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > Iran invades Azerbaijan on April 22nd, 2014 EST. > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Daniel Garcia > wrote: > So the Iranian invasion takes place on what day? And given John's > post, you can disregard my earlier one... > > Dan > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > >> That was a date screwup on my part, I apologize. >> >> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:06 PM, John Penta >> wrote: >> Mike, >> >> Your Iran invasion made about my last week's posting >> nonsensical....Did you mean for it to happen 22 March? >> >> Especially since the WR advanced things to 12-18 April. >> >> John >> >> _______________________________________________ >> War_ooc mailing list >> War_ooc at esteroic.com >> http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> War_ooc mailing list >> War_ooc at esteroic.com >> http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://esteroic.com/pipermail/war_ooc_esteroic.com/attachments/20080430/abbe796b/attachment-0001.html From michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 20:14:40 2008 From: michael.michaeldowney at gmail.com (Michael Downey) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:44:40 -0230 Subject: [War_ooc] Um, nice. In-Reply-To: <7888A6AD-4CC6-43B3-986A-A662127D2AD9@yahoo.com> References: <6b6ab8a70804301642l10d00aa4vf5a4ffe7b7034822@mail.gmail.com> <367F34A1-8A4D-4C5B-9025-FFD3587F0542@yahoo.com> <6b6ab8a70804301656q70a04c86ub8140f895791149f@mail.gmail.com> <7888A6AD-4CC6-43B3-986A-A662127D2AD9@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6b6ab8a70804301714w6e48671cw9377ffb5259bec6d@mail.gmail.com> Putting everything in March was a type mistake. Everything occurs in April. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Daniel Garcia wrote: > Sorry to keep needling, are the other posts similarly moved into April, or > do they remain where they are, or something else? > > Dan > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > > Iran invades Azerbaijan on April 22nd, 2014 EST. > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Daniel Garcia > wrote: > > > So the Iranian invasion takes place on what day? And given John's post, > > you can disregard my earlier one... > > > > Dan > > > > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Downey wrote: > > > > That was a date screwup on my part, I apologize. > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:06 PM, John Penta > > wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > Your Iran invasion made about my last week's posting > > > nonsensical....Did you mean for it to happen 22 March? > > > > > > Especially since the WR advanced things to 12-18 April. > > > > > > John > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > War_ooc mailing list > > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > War_ooc mailing list > > War_ooc at esteroic.com > > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > War_ooc mailing list > War_ooc at esteroic.com > http://esteroic.com/mailman/listinfo/war_ooc_esteroic.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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