[War_ooc] Countries, timeline stuff, etc.

[John Penta]

Yeah, the potato thing kinda breaks all comparisons. I know the Mormons came
out of that time period, but the Great Awakenings from which I named the
phenomenon lasted for decades, so I'm not sure anything truly correlates.

To be honest, though, I'm wary of applying primarily economic theories to
religion. It seems too simplistic.

John

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM, <lee.tarnow at utoronto.ca> wrote:

> I'd disagree. If you look at credit cycle theory and Austrian Business
> Cycle Theory, they would have seemed to predicted this, so maybe you
> could extrapolate spiritual behaviour during these periods. As well,
> you could draw comparisons to the panic of 1837. Maybe take a look at
> religious response during the 1840s?
>
> Mind you, there was that potato thing, and the subsequent nativist
> response... ;)
>
> Quoting John Penta <john.penta at gmail.com>:
>
> > That sounds uncomfortably like Obama's guns and religion comment from the
> > campaign trail, but anyway.
> >
> > Kiiiind of. "Explain America!" is the easy reply to anyone who says
> > religious belief must decline with improved wealth, but you're also
> seeing
> > it in Eastern Europe and Russia. Admittedly, that's happening after
> > Communism, but in those areas religious belief is coming back with force.
> >
> > I did not say that #1 was a dramatic swing. It's the beginning of what
> would
> > take years to really change.
> >
> > It's a pendulum swing. Anyone who says the world will become boomingly
> > religious in 4 years is missing something. It takes longer.
> >
> > But to say that the recession, one of as deep a depth and long in length
> as
> > posited (stretching it to 2010 makes it last fairly long, if I recall my
> > economic history) might not lead people towards religion and
> traditionalism,
> > even in normally secularist areas (perhaps as a reaction to their
> parents'
> > secularism)? I don't think you can be so sure.
> >
> > The fact is, so far as I understand it, that nobody really looked at this
> > the last time economic conditions were this bad this long (the 1930s), so
> we
> > have no idea beyond anecdote.
> >
> > John
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Daniel Sanderson <
> > dantheman2210 at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >>   But haven't we always seen this amongst the groups you've mentioned?
> My
> >> uncle was recently in Africa, and when he came back we had a night for
> him
> >> to show us all his photos, and this of course came up, as there were
> >> shrines, churches, pictures and symbols everywhere. I would have thought
> it
> >> has always been the case that those who live a hard life depend a lot
> more
> >> on religion to help them, I guess, see the bright side of life (no Monty
> >> Python jokes intended).
> >> This isn't so much my view on inserting this into the game, more just a
> >> contribution to argument :D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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