[War_ooc] Countries, timeline stuff, etc.

[John Penta]

The more I think about it, the more that becomes my preference.

Scrapping point 1.
I warn you, though, I work in threes, so I'll have to come up with something
to replace it.:P

*looks over at his Bag of Weird* Eeeny meeny miny moe....
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:06 PM, <lee.tarnow at utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Well it is ONLY 4 years... it might be safer to just not touch it.
>
> Quoting John Penta <john.penta at gmail.com>:
>
> > Yeah, the potato thing kinda breaks all comparisons. I know the Mormons
> came
> > out of that time period, but the Great Awakenings from which I named the
> > phenomenon lasted for decades, so I'm not sure anything truly correlates.
> >
> > To be honest, though, I'm wary of applying primarily economic theories to
> > religion. It seems too simplistic.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM, <lee.tarnow at utoronto.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd disagree. If you look at credit cycle theory and Austrian Business
> >> Cycle Theory, they would have seemed to predicted this, so maybe you
> >> could extrapolate spiritual behaviour during these periods. As well,
> >> you could draw comparisons to the panic of 1837. Maybe take a look at
> >> religious response during the 1840s?
> >>
> >> Mind you, there was that potato thing, and the subsequent nativist
> >> response... ;)
> >>
> >> Quoting John Penta <john.penta at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > That sounds uncomfortably like Obama's guns and religion comment from
> the
> >> > campaign trail, but anyway.
> >> >
> >> > Kiiiind of. "Explain America!" is the easy reply to anyone who says
> >> > religious belief must decline with improved wealth, but you're also
> >> seeing
> >> > it in Eastern Europe and Russia. Admittedly, that's happening after
> >> > Communism, but in those areas religious belief is coming back with
> force.
> >> >
> >> > I did not say that #1 was a dramatic swing. It's the beginning of what
> >> would
> >> > take years to really change.
> >> >
> >> > It's a pendulum swing. Anyone who says the world will become boomingly
> >> > religious in 4 years is missing something. It takes longer.
> >> >
> >> > But to say that the recession, one of as deep a depth and long in
> length
> >> as
> >> > posited (stretching it to 2010 makes it last fairly long, if I recall
> my
> >> > economic history) might not lead people towards religion and
> >> traditionalism,
> >> > even in normally secularist areas (perhaps as a reaction to their
> >> parents'
> >> > secularism)? I don't think you can be so sure.
> >> >
> >> > The fact is, so far as I understand it, that nobody really looked at
> this
> >> > the last time economic conditions were this bad this long (the 1930s),
> so
> >> we
> >> > have no idea beyond anecdote.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Daniel Sanderson <
> >> > dantheman2210 at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>   But haven't we always seen this amongst the groups you've
> mentioned?
> >> My
> >> >> uncle was recently in Africa, and when he came back we had a night
> for
> >> him
> >> >> to show us all his photos, and this of course came up, as there were
> >> >> shrines, churches, pictures and symbols everywhere. I would have
> thought
> >> it
> >> >> has always been the case that those who live a hard life depend a lot
> >> more
> >> >> on religion to help them, I guess, see the bright side of life (no
> Monty
> >> >> Python jokes intended).
> >> >> This isn't so much my view on inserting this into the game, more just
> a
> >> >> contribution to argument :D
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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